T.D. Jakes Comes Out for “Gay Rights” and “LGBT Churches,” Says Position is “Evolving”

 

It comes as no surprise that Oneness Pentecostal and Word of Faith preacher T.D. Jakes would make these concerning statements. Since he’s anti-trinitarian and preaches the heretical prosperity gospel which saves no one, we should not listen to a word this man says as he’s clearly a false teacher. He states that the issue of homosexuality “is complex.” Although that may be true, living the gay lifestyle is sinful (Romans 1:26- 8, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10) so those involved in it have no choice but to repent and turn away from it.  True repentance always results in a change of actions (Acts 3:19, Acts 26:20).  In the interview with far left zealot Mark Lamont Hill, “Bishop” Jakes neglects to mention this but instead lends his support to those who struggle with sin.

One other note of importance as we share this article from Christian News Network: They​ have changed their headline on this story from its original, (“T.D. Jakes Comes Out for Gay Marriage and LGBT Churches” to state: “T.D. Jakes Comes Out for ‘Gay Rights’ and ‘LGBT Churches,’ Says Position is ‘Evolving’.  Their article remains the same.
We want to make sure we are accurate in our reporting, even when we share from other sources and what they report. So we have also changed our headline.

Now  to Christian News Network’s report:

T.D. Jakes

Megachurch leader and author T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle and that politics do not need to reflect biblical ethics, adding that his position on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving.”

During an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist.

“Absolutely… I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” he replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”

Jakes said that he thinks homosexuals should find congregations that affirm their lifestyle.

“LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he outlined.

“The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don’t like those convictions and values [and] you totally disagree with it, don’t try to change my house, move into your own … and find somebody who gets what you get about faith,” Jakes added.

He said that the issue of homosexuality is “complex.”

“Paul spends a lot of time wrestling back and forth, trying to understand should a woman wear a head covering, should you cut your hair,” Jakes stated. “I mean, they grappled back then and we’re grappling now because we’re humans and we are flawed and we’re not God.”

“Once you understand you’re not God, you leave yourself an ‘out’ clause to grow,” he said.

When asked if his position on homosexuality has “evolved,” Jakes agreed that it has.

“Evolved and evolving,” he replied. “I think that where I am is to better understand we, the church, bought into the myth that this is a Christian nation.” Continue reading

Correction: Originally the Christian News Network headline read: T.D. Jakes Comes Out for “Gay Marriage” and LGBT Churches,” Says Position is “Evolving.”  Christian News Network has since revised the headline as reflected above.

 

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108 Responses to T.D. Jakes Comes Out for “Gay Rights” and “LGBT Churches,” Says Position is “Evolving”

  1. Ron McKeever August 8, 2015 at 3:39 pm #

    Another case of a ‘spiritual leader’ who has lost his way. Paul never wrestled with any decision, he merely wrote God’s Word under the authority of the Holy Spirit. You are witnessing the total impotence of any movement who departs from God’s revealed Word. The blind leads the blind and the result is chaos and the judgment of God.

    • CHRISTOPHER AYERS August 9, 2015 at 10:09 am #

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_RP-3Jmejs ———– END THESE DECEPTIONS

    • jec April 11, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

      Since when can he be classified as “Pentecostal”. He has always been a mega-church prosperity preacher, much like Joel

    • Beabea April 12, 2016 at 8:18 pm #

      Yes sir another of Satan’s spawns.

    • Kaddi Anderson April 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm #

      I Christian seeking God’s Word will always go to the KJV bible and read the ancient words that have the same meaning today. We can follow words of modern day man or the words written long ago by men personally selected by God to put into writing what he wanted man/woman to know for all generations to come. We are warned numerous times about the false prophets that will be wolves dressed in sheeps clothing using God’s name to deceive. If one is not interested in following God’s Word…why worry about going to any church!!!

      https://bible.org/article/changes-kjv-1611-illustration

      Hebrews 13:8 (KJV)
      Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

      2 Timothy 4:3-4 (KJV)

      3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

      Matthew 7:15-16 and 21-23 (KJV)

      15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.
      21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
      22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
      23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

      • Kaddi Anderson April 14, 2016 at 9:30 pm #

        *Correction….Christians seeking God’s Word…

      • Carlos July 17, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

        Kaddi Anderson,

        I appreciate your love for the Word of GOD. I think though, that most of us never have learned that the closest that most of us have is a Translation of the Word of GOD which of course was written in Hebrew, Aramaic (A Hebrew dialect) and Greek.

        I see you mention the KJV 1611. If you do follow that version of the KJV translation, can we assume then, that you also believe that the Apocryphal (also known as the Intertestimental or Deuterocanonical) books also belong in the Bible as representations of the Word of GOD?

    • Chris June 8, 2016 at 6:47 pm #

      Nothing wrong with being anti-trinitarian. The apostles were not trinitarian.

      When talking to Mary after God raised him from the dead, Jesus told Mary, “dont cling to me for I am going to your father and my father, to your God and my God.”

      Jesus said he had a God.

      • Kwando June 9, 2016 at 11:49 pm #

        1 John 5:7 “For there are three that bear witness in heaven; the Father, the Word (John 1 reveals that Jesus Christ is the Word), and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one.”

        Many times there are references to God being the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, so you are correct in saying Jesus said He has a God, the Father. All Scripture is in agreement, so we shouldn’t try to negate part of Scripture because another part of Scripture seemingly sets it in contradiction. Remember that Scripture is made alive by the Holy Spirit as recorded in John 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life, the flesh profits nothing. The words which I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.” In addition, no part of Scripture is of private interpretation 2 Peter 1:20-21. That means that when you study the Bible, you don’t take it and try to make sense of it using your fleshly mind. Rather, what is written in Scripture is the very word of God dictated to faithful scribes who recorded it for our sakes. So, I encourage you to study the Bible and understand that certain things that don’t make sense in the natural are truths established in heaven, as it is written, “Forever,o Lord, Thy word is settled in heaven.”119:89
        The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you. Amen

      • DB June 11, 2016 at 11:07 am #

        There were 3 distinct person nags in the godhead from the beginning. The Jews knew that as did the apostles in the book of Acts 2. God is manifested as the Father, Jesus was born as a man and the Holy Spirit led men to record the scripture and convict men of sin. You need to study the Bible.

        • Jeremy July 30, 2016 at 7:39 pm #

          Sorry but this scripture wasn’t taken from the original Greek scrolls. It was added later by the Catholic church and shouldn’t even be in the bible.

      • Timothy July 11, 2016 at 1:19 am #

        I don’t know much about TD Jakes. But I don’t know of any true Oneness Pentecostal that considers the homosexual lifestyle to be alright. I grew up Oneness and still am. We very much believe in the Bible and that Homosexual/Lesbians need to let God deliver them from that sinful lifestyle.

        • Bruce July 17, 2017 at 2:49 pm #

          I Agree with you. I don’t think Bishop Jakes supports this life style.

        • Danny Davis July 18, 2017 at 2:47 pm #

          Well said Timothy

      • Darren February 22, 2017 at 4:27 pm #

        Can you please give me the scripture reference for this?

    • Margaret Long July 22, 2016 at 6:47 pm #

      MR.T.D. SUrely you are not reading from the same bible as I am.Gods word is same yesterday,today,and tomorrow.It will stand untill end of time and plainly I said
      plainly states homosexuals is an abomination! How you could stand befor your congregation and say otherwise takes my breath away to think of the souls you are endangering of HELL.At one time I had respect for you but now think you have joined forces with the forerunners to the anti -crist …….

    • Linda August 21, 2016 at 7:50 pm #

      You are right on target! Thank you!

    • Sharon hendryx July 14, 2017 at 12:53 am #

      God has NOT changed his mind on homosexuality ! God said it is an abomination to God our creator & God destroyed Sodum & Gomarehea for it & God is the same yesterday , today and forever !
      T. d. Jakes is supposed to be preaching and teaching God’s word that souls are saved , NOT lost to a forever HELL !

    • Carlos July 17, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

      Ron, I don’t think Jakes has lost his way. I don’t think he was ever on the right Path with the right GOD or the right JESUS or the right GOSPEL.

      I concur with the rest of your statement though.

  2. lyn August 8, 2015 at 7:23 pm #

    “But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them–that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood! When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you will surely die!’ and you do not speak out to dissuade him from his ways–that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood!” Ezekiel 33:6-8

    We behold this same evil affecting many of the pulpits of today’s churches. Mere morality is taking the place of regeneration, and the atonement by blood is a slighted subject. Instead of beseeching men to be reconciled to God–we find ministers wasting their time in giving Sunday lectures about all kinds of subjects. Rome is burning–and Nero is playing his fiddle! Souls are perishing–and ministers are amusing them! — Archibald Brown http://www.gracegems.org/29/Archibald%20Brown.htm

    • Jim August 10, 2015 at 4:30 pm #

      Amen & Amen!!!

  3. Eric August 8, 2015 at 10:19 pm #

    I’m not sure you got the point of what Jakes was saying. The headline is misleading and your take is unwise. I believe Jakes was brilliant in using words that kept him out of a pr trap and gives him more opportunities to reach those whom Christ died for. What is the purpose of all this? This no better than Balaam!

    • lyn August 8, 2015 at 10:44 pm #

      So, when Jakes supports what the bible calls an abomination and refuses to speak biblical truth, like the command to repent and believe {Mark 1:15}, you take no issue with that?

      From the article, “T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle. During an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist. “Absolutely… I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” he replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”
      Jakes said that he thinks homosexuals should find congregations that affirm their lifestyle.“LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he outlined.”

      Of course, he gives absolutely no scriptural support for his views, nor could he, for there is none. Instead, we find this from the Apostle Paul concerning those who are caught in sin..
      1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
      1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
      1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
      1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

      It seems God calls the unrepentant ‘wicked’ and commands them to be removed from the gathering of true born again believers. Perhaps you are confused as to what the true church is, it certainly is not any denomination/non-denominational type of organized religion, nor is it a building of any kind. The church is made up of those whom God calls out of darkness and into His light, those who’ve been born again by God – in short, it’s the redeemed. Jakes is just another wolf disguising himself as a sheep as he tramples God’s truth under his feet and compromises to please the world. Men that have truly been called by God to preach do not compromise, nor do they embrace sin. Instead, they warn sinners to flee from the wrath to come and urge them to be reconciled to Christ {2 Corinthians 5:20}.

      Now, what does the Apostle say about those who willfully practice or lust after the same sex?
      “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you…. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
      It’s quite evident that God is opposed to Jake’s view. The Apostle Paul never struggled when it came to calling sin what it is, even the sin of homosexuality. Jakes seeks to tickle the ear, just as the Apostle Paul warned us many would do – “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths”. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 – that time has arrived.

      It’s obvious that you do not get what Jakes was saying Eric; Jake refuses to call homosexuality what it is….an abomination to a thrice-holy God. He’ll reach no one for Christ, for he doesn’t possess biblical truth. “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek’. Romans 1:16 Only the proclaiming of truth, not added to or taken from, will save sinners. Those who compromise prove they do not tremble at God’s word, nor do they possess truth.
      Jakes seems to think ‘church’ is for everyone, when it isn’t. Only those who’ve been saved by His grace will gather to truly worship Him, and that isn’t an outward religion. True worship is inward, coming from a heart that’s been regenerated by God the Spirit and stands firm on His truth – every bit of it.

      • Joeee August 9, 2015 at 4:12 am #

        What traps… Is it that of calling a spade a spade. What did the word say about gay? A man of God should be a man of His word otherwise he belongs to the last day prophets

      • Wayne July 26, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

        What is the purpose of all this? The purpose is that your boy is a god hater who calls God a liar! News flash: If you really think this guy is preaching Truth… YOU are a stranger to Christ!!!

    • Sonny reece August 9, 2015 at 12:31 pm #

      Wow! A man that has great influence has moved away from God’s word- know we are not to condemn but to worn about sin in all our lives we are to be a light to this dark world God loves what he has created but never love our sin God’s word is what it is and no one can change it he will never water down his word for no one not even me I’m going to bible school and I want people to know the truth the real truth of God a don’t want anyone to be tricked by the enemy he is clever and he is the father of lies we must look out for the false teachers and it’s sad to know that he would be weak enough to fall for that I can no more hear him as long as he teaches outside the word of God. I pray that you get back to the truth pastor I want to see gay people get saved by on the power of Jesus awe must let everyone know that God is great so pastor please don’t compromise God’s word for now one the truth is the truth God loves everyone john 3:16 we have an obligation to God’s people saved and unsaved thats why I love my ministry of victory outreach we reach the lost and see the results of the spirit of the Lord move in people’s lives.

    • MIchael O'Connor August 10, 2015 at 12:38 am #

      I concur with your remarks. The person posting this and framing his remarks as being in favor of LGBT churches is committing journalistic malpractice. Or to put it another way, he is incapable of understanding Jake’s argument.

      • MIchael O'Connor August 10, 2015 at 12:45 am #

        Jake, speaking to someone outside of the church, was framing his remarks in terms of the Bill of Rights that gives to everyone the right to freedom of religion. He suggested that if there was to be a discussion among Christians that it must be theological and not sociological, and that it be behind closed doors. He was not about to discuss Scripture with a pagan. He was wise. Do gay churches have a right to exist and therefore co-exist with Christian churches? Absolutely. Does that mean that they are pleasing to God? That is another question that in this interview no one addressed. It is therefore foolish for us to evaluate this discussion in such terms. Eric was right.

  4. Wayne August 8, 2015 at 11:22 pm #

    T.D. Jakes is a prosperity preacher, this is true. He is not oneness pentecostal, and he is not anti-trinitarian. It appears that facts have been trumped by passion towards the subject matter, I would like to clarify.
    T.D. Jakes USED TO BE oneness pentecostal, something that he now vehemently denounces. During interviews he has denounced oneness pentecostalism for a stance of pro-trinitarian pentecostalism (the likes of which are seen in the Assemblies of God and Church of God denominations). He turned from an understanding of the scripture that are essential and as a oneness pentecostal I refuse to be lumped in with his current ministry and the damage it has caused due to its lack of biblical conviction.

    • Timothy July 11, 2016 at 1:23 am #

      I don’t know much about Jakes but I do find the Oneness bashing in this article to be dishonest and Biblicly wrong!

  5. Rev.Dr.R.J. Freeman, PhD August 9, 2015 at 2:51 am #

    Only God can judge.However, it is written in His Word, that Homosexualism is an abomination to Him.

    • Rushbaby July 26, 2016 at 12:26 pm #

      You are correct Rev Freeman……………..God has already said that it is wrong and God doesn’t change his mind.
      What we do is pray for the LGBTQ crowd to change their lifestyle and accept Christ… same as we pray that for Obama and all the liberals who support baby killing..

      KEEP PRAYING… John 3;16.

    • Norma Chappell July 15, 2017 at 4:32 pm #

      Gods people have a rigt to make judgment calls on unrighteous acts. In speaking on this matter, 1 Corinthians 6:2 says, “Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are you not unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
      So you see saying that only God can judge is untrue. We (saints) have a right to make those calls too.

      • lyn July 15, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

        Good comment Norma, you are correct. Now, concerning men who call themselves by titles, etc….

        FIRST, to the false comforters of Job, Elihu (God’s representative) said. “Let me not, I pray you, accept any man’s person, neither let me give FLATTERING TITLES unto men” (Job 32:31).

        SECOND, “Be NOT ye called Rabbi” or teacher” (Matthew 23:8), which is what “Doctor” signifies.

        THIRD, John 5:44 reproves those who “receive honor one of another” and bids us seek “the honor that cometh from God ONLY.”

        FOURTH, none of the Lord’s servants in the New Testament ever employed a title. “Paul, an apostle, “but never “the apostle Paul.”

        FIFTH, the Son of God “made Himself of no reputation” (Phil. 2:7); is it then fitting that His servants should now follow an opposite course?

        SIXTH, Christ bids us learn of Him who was “meek and lowly” (Matthew 11:29).

        SEVENTH, one of the marks of the apostasy as “having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage” (Jude 17).

        EIGHTH, we are bidden to go forth unto Christ outside the camp “bearing His reproach” (Heb. 13:13).

        For these reasons it does not seem to me to be fitting that one who is here as a representative and witness for a “despised and rejected” Christ should be honoured and flattered of men.

        From A.W. Pink – https://michaeljeshurun.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/dont-call-me-doctor-call-me-brother/

        Self -exaltation is prideful

  6. Deborah August 9, 2015 at 3:09 am #

    Matthew 16:23 (NKJV)
    23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”

    Matthew 15:9 (NKJV) And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men

  7. Rev. James Pam August 9, 2015 at 6:17 am #

    If Bishop T. D. Jakes did not come out directly to proclaim the scriptures which he preaches, then I am disappointed in him. The scriptures have not evolved and are not evolving. The treatment of homosexuality and lesbianism is also not complex in the scriptures. Romans 1:24 onwards refers to them as sinful desires, sexual impurity, degrading to the human body, unnatural sexual behaviour and shameful acts. 1 Cor. 6:9-10 says those practice this kinf of sexual immorality will not inherit the Kingdom of God. All true Christians who believe that the scriptures are the inspired word of God and who hope to enter God’s Kingdom MUST directly condemn gays and gay acts. I am not being judgmental because God has already condemned them. Thanks.

  8. Annemarie August 9, 2015 at 10:29 am #

    You know when I read this I was, like so many of you, sick. I remember the story about Noah that we talk about concerning the likeness of the end times. Well the ship represents the church and Noah who took a stand for righteousness declared what God had told him to do. Because they refused to repent and believe the door was closed. Now I’m not saying we shouldn’t allow the sick in the hospital but the hospital is there to get well. If someone refuses to get well or came into the arch, with the intention of getting saved (or to continue not to have any intention to change) then the church needs to decide if they want to be an arch or a boat that sinks. We should not allow it to effect our beliefs and what clearly is stated in the Word of God. We should be the ones who affect them. We don’t preach against murder or adultery just so we can go out and do it. We need our hearts and minds to seek to Change. The church should not be a conscience appeaser and if we are we need to reevaluate our stand.our we the church or are we the world disguised as the church.

  9. Monte August 9, 2015 at 12:13 pm #

    T.D. Jakes is being pulled in and deceived by that filthy lucre that he preaches the Word for.

  10. Linda Gallant August 9, 2015 at 12:23 pm #

    the only church if you can call it that , that aligns with the lifestyle of same sex people is the church of the devil…sorry to be so blunt but the truth is the truth and no church of God can align with a lifestyle that is a sin…love the sinner but hate the sin…I love same sex people but I hate the sin….just the same as I love opposite sex people who live together as if they were married….a sin

  11. terry August 9, 2015 at 2:24 pm #

    I am very upset that Bishop Jakes made these statements. He is supposed to be a leader in the church and stand behind the word of the CREATOR! If this is what he said I will not be following him anymore. It is not our fault that GOD called homosexuality an abomination in his sight! We are to share the truth regardless of its acceptance or not. Hate the sin not the sinner! I am so far from perfect that I would not count, but thanks to JESUS i am counted. Bishop Jakes needs to go back to his roots of the bible and look at how far he has left the truth. I am not judging him but he is not speaking the true word of the CREATOR.

    • Prophetess Jarice August 12, 2015 at 11:02 am #

      Amen

      • Jackie Cox July 16, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

        Immoral, satanic, unethical, alogical, destructive of Christian society, totally without respect for our youth. Such people need serious mental help for their disturbed minds, if we are to protect our youth then we should consider isolating predators from contact with our society until such time they have been corrected

  12. DonWayne August 9, 2015 at 3:52 pm #

    T.D. Fakes

  13. peggy vanleer August 9, 2015 at 3:55 pm #

    Some people chase demons rather than chase after holy spirit of God

  14. Levi Nueva August 9, 2015 at 4:45 pm #

    It is sad of preachers who condone such detestable things but are we to condemn him? Jesus said, Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?
    Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

  15. lyn August 9, 2015 at 5:26 pm #

    Levi
    Exposing erroneous teachings of false teachers is NOT judging, please do not take God’s word out of context and falsely accuse the brethren.
    The Bible forbids wrongly judging, or accusing others {which is the context of Matthew 7}, however, the passages you use to accuse others of wrongly judging do not apply to this situation. No one is condemning Jakes on a personal level, what we are doing is exposing his erroneous teachings. Take note in the Bible how our Lord handled the false teachers of His day, the Pharisees – He referred to them as ‘hypocrites’ and ‘brood of vipers’. Would you accuse Christ of wrongly judging? I would hope not. Jakes own views prove him to be in error, and those unbiblical views must be weighed in light of Scripture then exposed for what they are – lies. Jakes is a false teacher, and the bible has not one nice thing to say about false teachers. 2 Peter 2:3 states “And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” Men like Jakes are damned already, they ‘make merchandise’ of their followers by using and prostituting the word of God. They add to and take from holy writ and proclaim their erroneous teachings as though it were truth. False teachers such as T.D. Jakes are who Peter was referring to when he said ” But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” 2 Peter 2:1

    As for the proper meaning of Matthew 7:2-5, I encourage you to read http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Sermon/sermon_39.htm

  16. Julie August 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm #

    You sick liar. Devils hand work

    • Prophetess Jarice August 12, 2015 at 11:09 am #

      Thanks for that awesome teaching regarding the two judging issues, I am often accused of judging, when correcting error, especially if the preacher is a high profile one.

  17. Otto August 9, 2015 at 7:16 pm #

    1 Corinthians 6:2-3 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?

    and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

    Know ye not that we shall judge angels?

    how much more things that pertain to this life?

  18. Otto August 9, 2015 at 7:22 pm #

    2 Timothy 3:1-5 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

    For men shall be lovers of their own selves,

    covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce,

    despisers of those that are good,

    Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

    Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:

    from such turn away.

    • Prophetess Jarice August 12, 2015 at 11:18 am #

      I don’t know why the saints are not taught the truth regarding judging. Everyone always want to fall back on Matthew 7, but never realize we must judge all things regarding the word of God. Try the Spirit by the spirit to see what sort it’s of. The spirit is the words that comes from the man/women.

  19. lek August 10, 2015 at 4:03 am #

    Let stop fighting against man and face the real enemy of the church which is devil…He is the confusionist …..He started it all.
    Please we must also must be careful of what we say to His anointed….you can fight for God.He is the all mighty,let Him fight for Himself.Remember when Moses married an Ethopian woman which is against God’s commandment law and was confronted by his own sister Mariam which later resulted in strange diseases covering her body. I am not against disputing the doctrinal issue but all must careful over attacking his person…god may fight you back

  20. Mike August 10, 2015 at 6:15 am #

    I think this story is so irresponsible and borderline slander. I have heard Bishop Jakes take on the subject. He said it is a sin. He’s political position is they have a right to form their own churches based on their belief like Muslims, catholics, Jehovah Witnesses, Moormans or any other religious community. He never said he is for gay marriage and that he condones it. This article takes his words out of context and frames it with commentary to make a point the writer wants to make. Totally irresponsible.

  21. keith miller August 10, 2015 at 10:32 am #

    I think Rev TD Jakes is being taken out of context. I think he is only saying that if Gays find his church or any other church not tolerant enough for them, then they should worship elsewhere. Personally I dont agree with the lifestyle but I also dont agree with adultery of fornication at this point in my life and I think I will be changing much in the near future. I do think that all churches should welcome any person of any lifestyle and it will be up to them and God to decide if they want to make a change. Accepting Christ is a life changing experience.

  22. lyn August 10, 2015 at 11:50 am #

    What no one here has made a point of is Jakes failure to speak of the need to repent of sin and forsake it, in this case, the sin of homosexuality. It isn’t ‘gay’, for the Bible does not call it that at all. It is an abomination to God – Leviticus 18:22. We fail to take sin seriously anymore, forgetting God’s absolute hatred at all sin and His abhorrence of it.
    Jakes uses worldly terminology, ‘every gay person is different’ – is this how a man called by God speaks about sin? Hardly. It certainly is not how the word of God defines this sin.
    Every homosexual is lost in sin and in desperate need of God’s mercy and grace. To say they can be welcome into any church is not biblical, for they must leave their perversion behind. The visible ‘church’ welcomes sinners and does not demand they repent, however, the true church of Christ is commanded to deal with those who refuse to repent {see 1 Corinthians 5}.
    One can only forsake sin IF they’ve been born again by God, otherwise, their bondage to sin remains and they are enslaved to sin. ” Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.” John 8:34 There is good news, “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” John 8:36
    Jakes fails to proclaim the whole counsel of God, instead, he tap dances around the issue and gives all kinds of reasons – none of which come from God’s word. Those who’ve truly been born again by God will always take sinners to the scriptures to show them their sins, and then point them to Christ and His cross. It matters not if we agree or disagree with sexual sin, what matters is what God’s word says about sin – all sin. The command is to repent and believe, that isn’t a choice or an option – it’s a command by the almighty, sovereign God of the universe.

    • Prophetess Jarice August 12, 2015 at 11:37 am #

      So Eloquently, gently, and lovingly put! Wonderful

      • Inspire February 25, 2017 at 11:36 am #

        INDEED! GREAT RESPONSE!!

  23. Edith August 10, 2015 at 12:03 pm #

    WARNING NO REST…….NO…….payer and fasting for you TD Jakes
    If you do not repent you will be part of the “Satanic awakening” ….

    This is God’s Words,
    so your name is not in the BOOK OF LIFE
    if “anyone” comes to repent of their sin …….let them in!
    I do not care who it is, but when you partake, you have sinned !
    You have blood on your hands …………everyone who listens to you ……..their Blood on your hands!

    Romans 1:

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

  24. Edith August 10, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

    WARNING NO REST…….NO…….payer and fasting for you TD Jakes
    If you do not repent you will be part of the “Satanic awakening” ….

    This is God’s Words, Romans 1
    you need Holy Ghost Fire not a shout !
    so your name is not in the BOOK OF LIFE
    if “anyone” comes to repent of their sin …….let them in!
    I do not care who it is, but when you partake, you have sinned !
    You have blood on your hands …………everyone who listens to you ……..their Blood on your hands!

    Romans 1:

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    here>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO TAKE UP OUR CROSS!
    Moses Rivera Edith, I’m sorry but you’re not fully comprehending T.D. Jakes statement. T.D. Jakes specifically stated “My position on the subject has been steadfast and rooted in scripture. For the record, I do not endorse same sex marriage but I respect the rights that this country affords those that disagree with me.” Please, please talk to your pastor about this.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    The Word said ….
    to conquer my eminety……. you must divide….. by the power of God in you!!!!!!!! NOT U BUT GOD in our weakness Jesus is faithful ( weak – means your obedience, walking blind) committed to the death,,,,, JOY our county is HEAVEN there is no DEATH ……LOLLOLLL
    When my mother passed I shouted allover she is with our Lord I was Happy!!!!!! When I suffer….. I awake to Joy PEACE …
    I know it is crazy….BUT SO TRUE !

    The Devil has not taken the Holy Ghost out of “c”hurch……?CHURCH ?
    THE BRIDE is the Church ……Jesus “walks” in the mist of it !

    “THE Satanic awakening “= flesh
    EVIL replaced it with Flesh :
    emotion .music. compromise . only a shout . I “feel” word. Love without the word HOLY in front “Holy Love ” GOD IS HOLY!. picking which words in the Bible to use in your life.

    BRIDE IS A :
    MARCHING / MILITANT / MISSIONARY / CHURCH =
    in our weakness ……Jesus is faithful ( weak – means your obedience, walking blind) committed even in the word called death,,,,, JOY our county is HEAVEN there is no DEATH

    If all you have is a SHOUT …….. it has no power …….if you have been through the Fire Of God “Holy Ghost Fire ” it burns up anything that is not of God !
    The same Spirit …Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost diverse Works
    teary for a while in prayer till it come Jesus TOLD them
    NO MAN…….. ask Jesus on your knees what is right and read KJV Bible
    it preaches 99.9 % accurate… only the italics are put in for English use
    read without I do.

    He said, “Jesus never sought to change the world through public policy but rather through personal transformation.”

    REALLY ! Jesus said, “Luke 12 : 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

    52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

    53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

    54 And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.

    55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass.

    56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?

    57 Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?”

    False Shepherds use words flesh you must have the Power of the God of Heaven through HOLY GHOST FIRE ….
    For the
    “Satanic awakening “IS HERE!!!!!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CHURCH JESUS ‘ COMING IS EMINENT!!!!!!!!!!

  25. Edith August 10, 2015 at 2:25 pm #

    I did hear him …….. but He did not back it up…. with the word ” BUT” they / all sinners must come to know the WORDS O F GOD … or be turned over to a reprobate mind ….

  26. sylvester August 25, 2015 at 11:21 am #

    TD Jakes is called (expected) to defend the gospel (as a Christian); not to stand in between views. Millions of people depend on his view to survive in faith. Who’s side is he standing.
    Leviticus 20:13 ESV / 396 helpful votes
    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
    Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 385 helpful votes
    You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
    Romans 1:26-27 ESV / 240 helpful votes
    For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
    1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV / 224 helpful votes
    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

    1 Peter 3:15: “But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you”
    Jude 3-4: “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints”
    Ephesians 5:11: “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”
    2 Peter 2:1-2: “But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.”
    We are instructed to defend the faith in response to those who challenge the Bible, Jesus and the gospel. We are to be prepared to give a satisfying explanation to those of other religions. This is true apologetics, to give an answer to everyone-those who are in other religious systems or those that we call cults that have different teachings on Jesus, the gospel and the way of salvation. Many claim they are the practicing true Christianity and do not adhere to the core doctrines of the faith but instead disbelieve or distort them. The immense growth of these other religions and cults are due to the churches inadequacy to explain and defend the faith publicly to prevent those from joining these groups. Being able to define and defend the Bible correctly goes hand in hand with successful evangelism.

  27. moses adipa January 11, 2016 at 5:07 am #

    After reading what Jakes said and all the comments ihave this to say. Do not dilute Gods word and donnot try think you know more homosexuality is an abomination in the sight of God . preach the gospel that will save any one invoved do not add and do not remove.lest the anger of God shall come upon us like it happened to sodom and gommorah.

  28. T April 12, 2016 at 6:02 am #

    To Marsha West and whoever else has a part in this article. We must as the church recognize not to attack a particular body of believers. Not to say that this article is pointless but the fact to announce his background as to state the fact that he is Pentecostal and not trinitarian has anything to do with his position is not fair. There are many trinitarian who support gay rights so that has absolutely nothing to do with his position. Anyone can be pulled into falsehood no matter who they are. Truth be told the only doctrine that we should follow is that of the Apostles.

  29. Judi April 12, 2016 at 10:50 pm #

    The Bible says in the end times, if they are not watchful, even the elite will be fooled into believing a lie.

  30. t griffin April 12, 2016 at 11:12 pm #

    Gays should be allow to fellowship. But their conduct of fellowship must be appropriate with the Word of God. Meaning two men can’t come into the church holding hands. Neither can they minister in no capacity until they are save. You can’t be saved and gay at the same time because it contradicts the word of God.

    So yes, they can fellowship but dont bring your homosexual behavior in thr church. There has to be mutual respect on both sides. But the line must be clearly drawn on what is and isn’t allow in the church.

  31. stephen April 14, 2016 at 3:27 am #

    Bishop Jake is beginning to compromise. He should be careful of what he says.

    • caroline July 13, 2016 at 4:55 pm #

      Wow!! Dr.Phil and his Family better protect their souls from this man and Joel Olson God stays the same read the Bible. Dr.Phil you better find a Bible based church your soul is in danger. Those are just two False Prophets

  32. Author Filmmaker Godfrey April 14, 2016 at 7:58 pm #

    Keep On Believing in man he will fail you every time. Christians how foolish can you be wake up and smell the coffee please.

  33. Tabatha Frink April 16, 2016 at 2:55 am #

    You guys the only way 2 help change someone is to accept them with the high expectation of faith yes LORD says love GOD with your all in love thy neighbor. As the living word say do not judge or you will be judge ~meaning let sinners b sinners and watch for the LORD arrival. All said in done if you love GOD you will love everything about him as well accepting other’s with high expectations. Bishop TD Jakes Open Arms to all with high expectations of change if not they would just be left out of the congregation just looking on because they think not of what’s going on with themself because of the endurance starting at a young age it’s a curse from black magic etc all i can say is every (❤)heart will be tried in this iz the Gay Nation to repent and understand the truth so with high expectations and prayers ;we just about all know or have a family member that’s gay with the High expectation that they change their life around SO all said in done accept one another pray and keep going or judge in be judged the Bible is written in parables just like the Good Samaritan it’s outta help or you don’t as well don’t pick up a bottle that you can stand for not knowing anything about keep walking

  34. Tabatha Frink April 16, 2016 at 3:09 am #

    I mean ? this iz crazy how yall can stand against someone of GOD but stands with a murderer acting like he/she ain’t commit no crime when y’all know well but yet again y’all don’t even live a GODLY LIFE 2 even understand where Bishop TD Jakes is coming from Y’ALL still standing & sitting in king kerod courts testifying against the Holy Spirit but yet again verse 1st 1John 3 ?

  35. Tabatha Frink April 16, 2016 at 3:20 am #

    i mean this is (?) !SICK! Y’all don’t even understand what’s going on being critical judgmental Optimus thinking to the person that’s helping when you should be doing this to the person that’s standing or laying next to you but y’all are going against the person GOD himself elected to be 1 of his helps yet again 1jhon 3;1

  36. Tabatha Frink April 16, 2016 at 3:32 am #

    One more time high expectations accept everything everyone to bring the change coming to service and picking up your Bible will knock off things you never knew you had #HIGHEXPECTATIONS

  37. Sarah April 24, 2016 at 7:28 pm #

    Having done all……..stand!

  38. WATCHMAN May 17, 2016 at 12:56 am #

    Poeple should realize that this demon is misleading them!
    THIS is NOT a JOKE !!!
    God is the same for eternity!!!
    Turn away from this wicked fool!!!
    Jesus warned for such people!!!
    He is another puppet from the kabinet of the ANTICHRIST!!!
    Turn to Jesus please …
    He is you hope and salvation!!!
    NOT T.D. JAKES not JOEL OSTEEN, NOT JOYCE MEYER !!!

    THERE IS ONLY ONE NAME UNDER THE HEAVENS THE BIBLE SAYS!!!

    JESUS CHRIST !!!

    This man T.D. Jakes is going to bring you in hell,
    he can not give what you seek !!!
    His promisses are false !!!

    JESUS AND JESUS ALONE IS THE WAY AND THE TRUTH !!!

  39. Damptey S.O May 18, 2016 at 8:34 am #

    The holy people have started condemning people like Bishop Jake. Where were they when minority gay right stood and turned the whole constitution to their favor in America.
    Those who are condemning now where hiding. we didn’t hear their voice. No wonder even Jesus was called the devil and even demon in his days. You called Jake false prophet and teacher, may God have mercy on you all. You know how to speak evil about God’s people but can’t speak against the evil parading at your doorsteps.
    The most important thing is to speak aloud….. against the evil parading itself as RIGHT in America cities before the judgement of God falls.

    Lord Jesus save America ….They no more trust God but so call evil RIGHT

  40. Paula July 22, 2016 at 12:22 pm #

    Always listened to t d jakes and respected him. So Disappointed in him. He might be evolving be the BIBLE HAS ALWAYS BE THE SAME….Another one bites the dust. Or maybe he was always been this way an misleading millions of people. Thankfully I put my faith in GOD not man…..td jakes needs prayer….

  41. Bus July 26, 2016 at 7:33 pm #

    Do not lean to your own understanding

  42. Garrett Fornea July 26, 2016 at 10:46 pm #

    You can’t be a Oneness Pentecostal and a LGBT supporter. You can’t be a Oneness Pentecostal and support the prosperity gospel. And trinitarianism is a heresy, period. There is only One God and His Name is Jesus…he is the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost all at the same time.

  43. Barry d clark July 28, 2016 at 10:30 am #

    I truly believe what my Bible says point blank,One day each of us will stand before GOD AND HE ALONE WILL JUDGE US BISHOP JAKE’S I WILL CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR.THE BIBLE SAYS THAT YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET OR MAKE YOU FREE.ITRULY TRUST JESUS NOT WHAT MAN THINKS READ THE WORD FOR YOURSELF.

  44. Patricia Roundtree August 8, 2016 at 3:23 pm #

    I believe many are misinterpreting what Bishop Jakes is saying. We as the church should stop trying to be “god” and let people come to God. There is a place for sinners; it’s called the church. If we tell people that they can not worship in the house of God because of their sexual preference then we are no better than them. Jesus came to save ALL. When we look down on people we overlook the power the Holy Spirit has to change their lives. If not for God (through Jesus) then all of us would be lost in sin. Let the gays, homosexuals, lesbians, and transgender come to Jesus. Remember Matthew 19:14 Jesus said, “Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” If we don’t let them come to Jesus, what kind of witnesses are we and what is our purpose in the earth? There is a church for everyone and we should let God be God for them too. That doesn’t mean we accept their lifestyle, rather like the Syrophoenician Woman in Matthew 15:21-28 we need to encourage them to come because their need is great. All we need to do is stop getting in the way and let them come and worship. Transformation will happen when we let the Holy Spirit have His way.

    • Judy Johnson June 26, 2017 at 7:43 pm #

      Patricia I agree with you whole heartedly.. we love the person but hate the sin.. if the sinner cant come to the church, then where is he to go? This is the very reason so many are leaving the churches… self righteousness from christians.. I say that except for the Grace of God, there go I.. its called come as you are and then let the Holy Spirit work and change you.. I wouldnt even be reading this post except I just finished listening to a man on TV talk show condemn T.D. Jakes and called him the devil’s helper.. that really bothered me as I listen to this program and I feel this is one area that they judge before they know and no one has the right to do that.. I dont listen to T. D. Jakes but neither do I think anyone has the right to take another down till they know their information is true at least… from what I can find, I find that T.D. Jakes in no way meant that he accepted the homosexual lifestyle but was saying if we as Christians in America dont want our “rights” taken away, we better stop trying to take others away..
      Anyway, I agree with what you said..

      • Judy Johnson June 26, 2017 at 7:47 pm #

        I would also like to clear up another thing.. there is a difference in one who says he is a Christian going to church and continuing a wrong life style and a sinner that does not know God at all but is obviously looking for Him, and is the reason he is entering the church doors.

      • lyn June 27, 2017 at 12:27 am #

        Judy, you have no problem with this from Jakes, ““LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he outlined.

        “The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don’t like those convictions and values [and] you totally disagree with it, don’t try to change my house, move into your own … and find somebody who gets what you get about faith,” Jakes added.

        He said that the issue of homosexuality is “complex.”

        You are okay with allowing sexual sin within the church? You have no problem with compromising and embracing what God hates – sin?

        1Co 5:11  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 
        1Co 5:12  For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 
        1Co 5:13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 

        Do you understand what Paul is saying here? Unrepentant sinners MUST be removed from the church. You should not even keep company with such types.
        You call it ‘self righteous’, God says otherwise.

        • Manny1962 June 27, 2017 at 8:37 am #

          “There is a place for sinners; it’s called the church. If we tell people that they can not worship in the house of God because of their sexual preference then we are no better than them.”

          Is that what Jesus said?

          Church is not a place for sinners, after salvation sinners become part of the church. Sinners of every category are still dead in their sins if not saved, coming into a building every day and reading a bible or listening to a sermon does not make one “saved” nor a “christian,” you have as much of a chance turning into a car if you sit everyday in your garage. It does not work that way.

          As for TD Jakes, not only is he a false teacher and an ecumenist, he fleeces the gullible out of their own hard earned money. He denies the Holy Trinity. He is to be avoided, he does not preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ, he preaches the gospel of health and wealth.

          • lyn June 27, 2017 at 8:50 am #

            Exactly Manny – how sad is it that many who profess to be Christians embrace sin? They know nothing of repentance, for it is no longer expounded upon in the pulpit. They want to be loving and embrace sexual deviants, they do not understand 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, particularly verse 11, ‘such were some of you’. The true believer flees from sexual immorality { 1 Cor. 6:18}, they certainly do not embrace it. Church discipline is to be implemented for those within the church who are caught in sin, and they are to be removed if they refuse to repent {1 Cor. 5}. Yes, we are still sinners, however, we never should embrace sin and welcome it.

            I would only add this to your statement, ‘church is not a place for sinners’. I would put ‘unrepentant’ before ‘sinners’.

          • Manny1962 June 27, 2017 at 8:53 am #

            Yes, unrepentant sinners, as we all are sinners!

        • Manny1962 June 27, 2017 at 8:50 am #

          Good morning Lyn,

          Have you noticed how Jakes refers to the “church?” From his statements, the church belongs to man, not Jesus…….. they’re all different, there’s no ONE church, but multiple “churches” that worship as they please! This is in keeping with his anti trinitarian heresy. How can anyone defend this lying wolf? This man is corrupt through and through! Above he says there’s a black church, a white church and a gay church! This man is warped! There’s neither Jew nor Greek in Jesus Christ, as there is neither black, white, yellow, or red! We are His children when we are saved! He (Jakes) also promotes racism! Wow!

          • lyn June 27, 2017 at 8:54 am #

            Good morning Manny,

            Yes, his understanding of ‘church’ is very different from what the Bible teaches. His views are all inclusive and reek of ecumenism don’t they? This is the ‘church’ that Satan is building in these end times, and it is global/all inclusive. All are welcome, bring your sins and worship the ‘god’ of your understanding!

            Jakes is a heretic, a minion of Satan. He hasn’t ears to hear and those who defend him prove the bible to be true. God sends strong delusion to those who refuse to love the truth.

          • Manny1962 June 27, 2017 at 9:04 am #

            Lyn, I’ll tell you what really shocks me to the core, in this day and age when information is so readily available and verifiable, “Christians” don’t bother to research those that profess to be leaders! They happily follow anyone who says “Christ, love and acceptance” because it sounds “right” and “loving.” As said before, the road to hell is paved with “love and acceptance.”

          • lyn June 27, 2017 at 10:26 am #

            That’s true, and it’s because they want to worship a ‘god’ that looks, acts, and thinks just like they do. They want to appeal to the flesh and embrace sin. Tolerance is the theme of the day, and it is just the opposite what Christ taught. Never did Christ tell sinners He loves them just as they are and keep on keepin’ on.
            The God of the Bible is an unknown God to most in America. His attributes are foreign to many, especially His holiness. The true nature of all of mankind is played down, we aren’t so bad are we?! I recall Isaiah’s response when he saw how majestic and holy God is…it caused him to see how repulsive he was – Isa. 6:5  Then said I, “Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.” The closer we get to God, the more we see our own vileness. Try telling that to today’s ‘Christian’ and see how fast they say, ‘That’s not MY ‘god’!! {To borrow a line from brother Paul Washer}.

      • Manny1962 June 27, 2017 at 8:41 am #

        ” I dont listen to T. D. Jakes but neither do I think anyone has the right to take another down till they know their information is true at least… from what I can”

        Good morning Judy,

        TD Jakes has been proven to be false multiple times by multiple sources, no one is “taking down” TD Jakes, he by his very own words and actions, that have been documented, has shown himself to be unqualified.

  45. IFEANYI August 12, 2016 at 5:08 am #

    i think before i can believe this article, i video will have to be shown to me, where the Bishop is “coming out for gay or LGBT”

  46. Peggy Mason October 22, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

    So. Mr Jakes, if my failing (sin) is theft, I should find a church that affirms that? A church that will encourage me to go out and rob your house?

  47. Marilyn November 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

    Sorry you sold out..ive changed channels now for good. You became a follower of Oprah Hillary Obama and Mo
    ney money money.. False profit. Too bad..very disappointed. You will lose some followers over time as they SEE you..

  48. Barry clark July 14, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

    What does the bible say? It’s a sin my stand is on the Lord’s side PERIOD. Well RD JAKE’S WILL STAND AND GIVE ACCOUNT FOR HIS POINT BEFORR THE LORD!!!!!!!!!

  49. Dr. Samuel White, III July 15, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

    Iam deeply disappointed in Bishop Jakes evolving position on homosexuality. I had hoped that he would be faithful to the New Testament scriptures which clearly desugnate homosexuality as a sin. We must pray that Bishop Jakes reaffirm the Holy Scriptures and admonish the Church to ” love the sinner and hate the sin.”

  50. Sola Awolaja July 16, 2017 at 5:33 am #

    Glorious Rapture: Scary Or Blessed Hope? Ideally, we may think that all Christians are eager for the imminent glorious Rapture. Although many professing Christians would most likely not admit it. However, there are some cold or lukewarm Christians/Pastors who are not eager for the imminent glorious Rapture. Some lukewarm Pastors and lukewarm Christians did not want Lord Jesus Christ to return in their life time while some want Him to delay His coming for the next 50 years or more inspite of numerous Rapture alert warnings every year from Lord Jesus Christ. They are behaving like lukewarm Laodiceans (Revelation 3: 14-22).

    Some lukewarm Christians/Pastors are worldly and pleasure loving. They are scared of imminent glorious Rapture because they assume that the return of Lord Jesus Christ in the air on imminent glorious Rapture day will affect their earthly programs and daily activities. They are so much in love with the world. They want to enjoy continuously and actualize all their earthly aspirations until grand old age. According to Apostle Paul, “while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord.” (2 Corinthians 5:6). If we are too materialistic, not keen about soul winning, if our heart and homes are not in Heaven, we will not be very eager for the imminent glorious Rapture. If you are a true born again Christian, you have nothing to fear presently. We are still in the grace period, not the Great Tribulation period. Glorious Rapture has not taken place yet. Mark of the Beast (RFID chip/human barcode: 666) will only be enforced worldwide during the Great Tribulation period by Antichrist after the imminent glorious Rapture (Revelation 13:16-18).

    People must be ready always for imminent glorious Rapture. Indeed, people worldwide must be perpetually prepared for the imminent glorious Rapture. Rapture is an unpopular topic in lukewarm churches today and so many lukewarm Christians/Pastors and unbelievers care less about it because it is not as enticing and motivating as prosperity, breakthrough, new things, favors, blessing and earthly success. However, glorious Rapture is a daily expectation and thought of the wise Christians while prosperity and earthly blessings are the only major focus for the lukewarm Christians/Pastors and unbelievers. Prosperity and earthly blessings are essential but we must also be Heavenly minded and always ready for the glorious Rapture which is an imminent prophetic event (1 Thessalonians 4:15-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-53).

    Apart from thinking, waiting, preparing or expecting prosperity, miracle or anything else, we must also be ready always for the imminent glorious Rapture. The reason is because only those who earnestly, eagerly wait and prepare for His (Lord Jesus Christ) appearance more than anything else will eventually become raptured, just like the Biblical 5 wise virgins (Rapture-ready born again Christians). The 5 foolish virgins (lukewarm Christians/Pastors) were left behind due to their lukewarm, spiritual attitude. Read Matthew 25 for the full parable of the 10 virgins who were awaiting the coming of the “bride-groom” (Lord Jesus Christ).

    Indeed, time is running out. Presently worldwide, there are numerous warning signs of imminent glorious Rapture and urgent warning messages from Lord Jesus Christ. It is true we can’t know the day or hour of imminent glorious Rapture. However, we must be ready always for the imminent glorious Rapture. We must not be afraid or become Rapture-phobic. We must never give up our glorious Rapture blessed hope. Our glorious Rapture blessed hope is an imminent reality by God’s grace. We will become Raptured on imminent glorious Rapture day by God’s grace. Many lost souls are perishing daily in eternal burning Hell fire. As active soul winners, we must continuously populate the Heavenly kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ with numerous souls. As an active soul winner for our Lord Jesus Christ, your eternal Heavenly rewards and Heavenly treasures are awaiting you in Heaven. We will get our glorious crowns at the Heavenly Judgment Seat of Christ (Romans 14:10-12; 2 Corinthians 5:10) and live in our Heavenly glorious mansions forever by God’s grace. Amen.

  51. C.S. July 17, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

    This is a sad thing indeed! The bible says mankind shall not lie with mankind as with womankind. It says male and female He made them. We don’t get to chose what sex we are born. God dose. God don’t make mastakes, nor dose God ask our permission for anything. He gives us a choice him or the devil. If we choose the devil we get to live with the devil, if we chose God we get to live with God!!

  52. Greg July 18, 2017 at 6:14 am #

    No love shown on this site.God is love. Please pray for and bless even your enemies. John 3:16-17 worth reflecting on as well before joining Satan in declaring curses on those who may or may not have lost the way. Love God and love others. Walk as Jesus walked. Praying for you all.God bless. Let’s not assist the devil in hating others. You are all precious to the Lord. He placed a high value on everyone by shedding His blood. Find a neighbour and share the Gospel with them. That would be a better use of time.

    • Manny1962 July 18, 2017 at 8:35 am #

      Good morningGreg,

      You can’t over-emphasize one aspect of God while diminishing His other attributes. Being in a position in which one claims to be a “teacher” of God’s word is a very serious matter, for instance:

      James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more severely than others.

      Love is good, but also God’s words are holy and to be handled as such. TD Jakes is a modalist who denies The Holy Trinity, he is a Word Of Faith heretic as seen by many on the blasphemous TBN channel. He is not showing love or loyalty to He who made him.

      You cannot compromise truth for the sake of “love,” Mr. Jakes should repent and relinquish his status as a “preacher,” clearly he’s been shown not to be approved. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and “love.”

  53. Boone76 July 20, 2017 at 8:22 pm #

    Disgusting! Jakes is a Democrat first, liberation theologian second, prosperity gospel promoter third, and Christian fourth. Heretic is the best word to describe him.

  54. Lillian Spenard July 14, 2019 at 4:18 am #

    Romans chapter 1:18 (Most Important Verse!)
    . 20,21,24,25,28,29,32

    Romans chapter 2:1,2,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,15,16

  55. Lillian Spenard July 14, 2019 at 4:50 am #

    Revelation chapter 19:1-21

    Especially these verses:
    1,2,5,6,7,8,9,13,17,18,21
    NOTE:(Key word: Righteous/ness)

    Revelation Chapter 21:22-27
    . Especially Verse 27

    Revelation Chapter 22:11-14

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