A senior Vatican priest comes out of the closet, admits to having a long time boyfriend, and gets fired. He’s mad. Ho hum, no surprise these days. But the bigger story is how a major evangelical news outlet reports the story — never mentions the priest’s sin. Instead we learn how unfair the Vatican is to the priest and his boyfriend — boohoo. Why did Christian Today contributing editor Ruth Gledhill neglect to mention the reasons homosexuality can never be accepted by the Roman Catholic Church? Evidently she would like CT readers to believe that the RCC hates homosexuals for no good reason when this is patently untrue. The Vatican’s view is based on the Bible’s teaching on same-sex relationships:
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Rom 1:1-28)
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor 6:9-11)
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. (1 Cor 6:18-20)
Evangelicals may disagree with the RCC on some of their unbiblical doctrines, but we wholeheartedly agree with them that homosexual acts are a sin. The RCC is to be commended for sticking to its guns on this contentious issue.
Now to Gledhill’s report:
A senior priest at the Vatican who was sacked when he revealed he is gay has condemned “the homophobic hate of the Church” in a letter to the Pope.
Poland-born Krzysztof Charamsa, 43, wrote: “Today, I side with the fantastic people who are homosexual, for centuries humiliated by a fanatical Church. I no longer accept the salvation that excludes – without any foundation whatsoever – a part of humanity.”
A former high-ranking official with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Father Charamsa wrote to the Pope outing himself on the eve of the three-week Synod on the Family.
In the letter to Pope Francis, only now released through the BBC, he described the feeling that prompted him to leap over the “imprisoning walls” of Church teaching.
He said the Church knows only how to persecute homosexuals. “The Church has excluded them as lepers, as if humankind were able to choose its own sexual orientation: heterosexual or homosexual.”
The synod has just ended without any concessions regarding the language or teachings on homosexuality, to the disappointment of the LGBT community. The Catholic Church teaches that homosexuality is “ordered towards an intrinsic moral evil.” Continue reading
Vatican sacks priest after he comes out as gay
The “stand” against homosexuality by the rcc is nothing more than propaganda. Their vocals views are for public consumption, yet for centuries they have swept under the rug the reality of pedophile/gay priests (and nuns). It is not proper for a regenerate child of God to side with the likes of these hypocrites who make great bluster about being “anti-gay” and continually allow, support, and coddle their current crop of “priests” that are the actual emissaries of satan.
To expose the realities of homosexuality is characterized as being “homophobic” or that we who see the sin and dangers are somehow “afraid” of those that are queer. nothing could be further from the truth. Their use of this “homophobia” has been all too successful across the US and the rest of western world. Decades ago we were introduced to the “Tolerance” phase of the gays. We were hammered on many fronts to stop the objections. Later, we found ourselves in the “Acceptance” phase where we ( reluctantly, at first) were encouraged (forced by fear of reprisals) to move beyond cursory Tolerance into Acceptance. This has been masterfully played and nearly 100% complete. Now we are being herded (again, forced) into the last phase of their end game which is “Participation”. “But”, you may say, “I’ve never committed a homosexual act in my life.” Good for you and may it stay that way. However, in the midst of the “Tolerance” and “Acceptance” your tacit approval is seen as “Participation” by Scripture. 2 John 1:7-11 spells it out plainly.
As “Participation” wraps it’s tentacles around the ignorant and willing masses things will go from bad to worse in a hurry. Transgender nonsense is one of the first steps and can be seen everywhere. The most stunning case I’ve come across lately is that of a three year old boy who is dressed, groomed, introduced, and treated as if he were a girl simply because the “mother” thinks he should be a girl and plans to make the physical changes to her son as soon as is possible. Disgusting? I hope so. Other forms of forced “Participation” as seen also in the school’s “sex-ed” classes where every thing that is against the Word of God is presented as truth and good for the child. If the queering of America is not stopped it could very well be that mandatory physical “Participation” be required of everyone to insure complete compliance with their agenda, wishes, and control. And there’s the bottom line: CONTROL.
If the RCC truly were sticking to its guns concerning homosexuality, they would never have allowed priests to practice sodomy in the first place. Instead of dealing with this sin biblically, they covered it up. Shame on them! Never, ever will I side with a dead religion, regardless of what they claim that may sound biblical. Because they do not deal biblically with sin within their own religion, we see the end result – a homosexual disguised as a priest who unleashes a backlash against his religion for not tolerating his sin openly. After all, they tolerated it before the whole world found out what their priests were up to.
As J.C. Ryle aptly stated, ““Controversy in religion is a hateful thing. It is hard enough to fight the devil, the world and the flesh, without private differences in our own camp. But there is one thing which is even worse than controversy, and that is false doctrine tolerated, allowed, and permitted without protest or molestation. It was controversy that won the battle of Protestant Reformation. If the views that some men hold were correct, it is plain we never ought to have had any Reformation at all! For the sake of peace, we ought to have gone on worshipping the Virgin, and bowing down to images and relics to this very day! Away with such trifling! There are times when controversy is not only a duty but a benefit. Give me the mighty thunderstorm rather than the pestilential malaria. The one walks in darkness and poisons us in silence, and we are never safe. The other frightens and alarms for a little season. But it is soon over, and it clears the air. It is a plain Scriptural duty to ‘contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints.’ (Jude 3) “I am quite aware that the things I have said are exceedingly distasteful to many minds. I believe many are content with teaching which is not the whole truth, and fancy it will be ‘all the same’ in the end. I am sorry for them. I am convinced that nothing but the whole truth is likely, as a general rule, to do good to souls. I am satisfied that those who willfully put up with anything short of the whole truth, will find at last that their souls have received much damage. Three things there are which men never ought to trifle with, – a little poison, a little false doctrine, and a little sin.”
Don’t be fooled by the RCC’s alleged stance against homosexuality, they’ve allowed it to go on within their own church walls for decades. They are just as guilty as this priest.
Enough, i found a html, a link leading to this and it disgusts me.
Christianity had a beginning, its written in the books, and like anything with a beginning, it is flawed over time.
This homosexual war on everything propaganda route you have chosen to follow is not the will of your god, you interpreted the bible, you read it with mortal eyes, you are not a power, u have no right to judge others who do not lead your life.
this discrimination, which this is, is disgusting. You know more people dislike christians than they dislike gays. because we are just people until you enter the bedroom, whereas christians have a reason, have a “cause” to justify their hate propaganda towards whomever they wish.
You are also just people, flesh, blood, sin and desire. Your faith is a desire, a desire to believe, a desire to believe in a deity that hasnt even been proven by the science you use to hate on Transgender, hermaphrodites, homo and other such peoples.
its hatefilled blather.
I hate to see this cultish propaganda upon my families personal pages.
days come to you, let you be the maker of them.
You need to avoid Christian websites. You come here lashing out at those who follow the word of God. If it disgusts you, then avoid it. You are hateful, judgmental, and a bigot – the very things you accuse Christians of being, you are!!!
Your sins are against the God who created you – and He will judge you according to His word. You have been given truth concerning your sin of homosexuality, and you reject that truth. You come here to push your agenda and to pass judgment on followers of Christ. Be warned, God will judge you for your sins.
Carry on with your life and leave the judging to the One who judges justly and righteously. You are only 15, you know nothing about life. May God have mercy on you before your heart becomes more hardened by your sins.
i, sadly, clearly know more than you, in all your hand me down wisdom.
you say that what i am is wrong and say we are crying for help, and when we fight back you say your being harassed.
U are hypocritical snops who need to mind their own business. I have no problem with your religion, just with some of the people who say that they follow it, dont twist my meaning
you need to find something better to do with your time besides stalk Christian websites and push your ‘poor me’ homosexual agenda. Where are your parents? Do they know what you are up to?
You need to follow your own advice young man and mind your own business. Let Christian websites alone if you are dead set against God and His holy word. As I have told you on another thread, you will suffer His wrath for all eternity if you continue on in your sin. I can quote you His truth again if you like.
But do you leave us alone, no. Many of you go out of your way to annoy us or verbally abuse us. And these websites affect us, if you dont want us to reply on them, dont post them on open sites.
And you just dismiss me now, and you’ve stooped to using the “your 15” argument, which means you have no other responses.
Truly you cant come up with anything original, or new to back up your argument, actually in a school debating club, this would mean you lose.
And every comment you leave proves you are merely here to push your homosexual agenda and demand others accept your perversion.You purposely single out Christian websites, play the victim, falsely accuse, then spew out your own brand of hate. I won’t waste time arguing with a child, rather, I will give you God’s word concerning your perversion….
Lev. 18:22 ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.’
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:8-11 ‘But we know that the Law [ God’s word] is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.’ God’s word points sinners to their sins, so you are without excuse. You need mercy from God, you don’t need to pick fights with Christians.
Tell that to the christian community, follow your own advice and id have no reason to come here nor to question your ethics. I will remain as it is a public site, your fault not mine, you made it open to all, so clearly it isnt exclusive.
But as it only seems to aggravate you, i will leave my critiscism to a minimum, and again you cant just go straight to the “im a child thing”, i have a higher level of education then most adults, this is not vanity, simply fact.
And surely your a hypocrite, as on this site you say homosexuals are bad and you even blatantly call me wrong, and when i argue that im not you say im pushing my “agender”, can you say thats not what christians do?
I dont hate nor even dislike christians, i hate hypocrits, and i told you this came up in a conversation i was having on a completely different site, which lead me here, and led to my anger.
If you are going to reply, dont waste your time, nor mine, by simply spouting biblical quotes, which as moving as they might be to a christian, mean nothing to me, and come up with something new, otherwise you are just calling me wrong because you have nothing else under your belt to say.