Discussions with Carl Lentz

By keeping you updated on the continuing exposure of the opposing statements that continue to contradict what one of the largest megachurches in the world has said about two gay men serving in its church, some will tell us we are “beating a dead horse.” We could easily listen to those voices and stop reporting these very disturbing new twists and turns, but then many sheep would be continuing to be mislead by taking Hillsong’s do-what-I-say statements as fact. We are all to contend for the faith, expose lies and teachings that directly contradict God’s Word and point people to the true Gospel of Christ.

No, we are not beating a dead horse, but sounding the alarm so that those who are caught up in deception may be snatched away from its destructive flames. Here then is the latest from ChurchWatch Central:

Recently we posted an article explaining how we are concerned that Carl Lentz had made misleading statements to Dr. James White about Hillsong’s position on the acceptance of gay people within the Hillsong Community. Our unease stemmed from a recent episode of The Dividing Line in which Dr. White discusses some email interaction he had with Carl Lentz, and his concerns about a recent statement made by Brian Houston about the inclusion of unrepentant homosexuals as congregation members of Hillsong Church.

Source: James White, Seer Stones, Hillsong Church, and KJVOnly Deceitfulness, Alpha & Omega Ministries, http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php/2015/08/05/seer-stones-hillsong-church-and-kjvonly-deceitfulness/, 26:17-27:50, Published 05/08/2015. (Accessed 10/08/2015.)

In this episode, Dr. White demonstrates that both Brian Houston and Carl Lentz have made contradictory statements about Hillsong’s position (e.g. that gay people are not allowed to be in positions of leadership, yet current news reports show that they are in fact in leadership positions). The transcript of Dr. White’s program is at the end of this piece.

Carl responded to our article with the following comment at ChurchWatch Central:

Hi! I actually don’t have a YouTube channel, so that’s unfortunate here in regards to your attempt to discredit me. Hard for me to upload videos on a site I don’t actually have. Make sure you do just a little bit of homework before you build your attack, might make it a little more believable. James white is a respectable man, who actually called to check facts. What’s funny is he actually talks about people like you the podcast you posted! Hilarious. In your eagneress to tear down, don’t rush the fact checking part. God bless you!

Carl Lentz: guy who has no YouTube channel.

Source: Carl Lentz (guy who says guy who has no YouTube channel), Church Watch Central, http://churchwatchcentral.com/2015/08/10/did-carl-lentz-mislead-james-white-of-alpha-omega-ministries/, Published 11/08/2015. (Accessed 11/08/2015.)

Carl Lentz also sent the following tweet to his followers on Twitter:

I don’t have a personal YouTube channel. If there is one, I have zero control of what’s on there and have never looked. God bless America!!

Source: Carl Lentz https://twitter.com/carllentzNYC/status/630950093252919297, Published 10/07/2015 (Accessed 11/08/2015.)

proof_TwitterLentzProtestsYoutubeAccount_11-08-2015Please read the full article here:

4 Responses to Discussions with Carl Lentz

  1. Doug Evans August 12, 2015 at 11:22 am #

    Carl Lentz doesn’t have a youtube channel? Seriously?
    How about this one: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD96etkj5hhtYisRuwgkFEw
    and this one – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdrKGqnm5O0SoN1g1JS7oPA

    He doesn’t have A YouTube channel, he has TWO YouTube channelS. and it took me 30 seconds to find them

  2. Sola Scriptura August 14, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

    False prophets and teachers are everywhere. We were warned:


  3. tim deary August 10, 2016 at 5:37 am #

    so you are a james white fan aran.t you

  4. Bill December 4, 2019 at 5:12 pm #

    I just made a youtube Channel called CarL Leentz so now there are 3. I am sure I am the only person that has ever figured out you can name a youtube channel whatever you want and there is no verification process…….Im not even a fan of the guy but I love how in sticking up for the lack of research before attacking someone you think this refutes it. Not only is it not in any way any kind of solid proof of anything – it has nothing to do with actually sighting a source about his statement. Even if he was wrong about having a youtube channel what does that have to do with his stance on homosexuality. If we are going after people for trivial misstatements and ignoring the critique about our methods it may be a time to step back and consider if this is what the body of Christ is supposed to look like.

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