Forget the Bible and the Holy Spirit – now you can transform your soul, heal the sick and injured, and experience the presence of God – through musical notes played at a specific frequency.
Okay, please don’t forget the Bible and the Holy Spirit – I was kidding. But if you are wondering how professing Christians are assimilating New Age thought, practices and outright sorcery into their worship, you might want to know about a “new thing” that caught my eye: WholeTones.
This is a method growing increasingly popular with New Apostolic Reformation churches. Promoters of this specially formulated ethereal music are making some pretty astounding promises, saying that the vibrations of certain songs will:
1. Wipe out your unhealthy fears, drop feelings of guilt and shame, and show you how you can help restore your liver, brain, and kidney functions.
2. Remove the recurring, negative cycles in your life like procrastination, addiction, and junk food…watch as sluggishness and lethargy disappear and productivity and creativity increase…enhance your digestion, ease stomach issues, balance your metabolism, and erase headaches and lower back pain.
3. Discover the Master Key that precipitates all other frequencies. You’ll feel soothed by its multiple health benefits as you’re tenderly enveloped in peace. This is the very same frequency David used to soothe King Saul’s depression.
“I’m convinced that God had given these frequencies to King David,” says musician and author Michael Tyrrell, who claims The 7 Secret Frequencies Uncovered in the Music of King David. How does he know? You’ll have to pay $99 to find out.
Check out the video on King David’s “secret” frequencies:
Here are the rest of the Wholetones promises:
4. Hear the most curious frequency of all…this has the power to restore broken DNA. This is the root of disease. Relax and let the transformation lift you to a seemingly unreachable height…gently relieving hormonal imbalances, muscle tension, weight problems, and circulation troubles.
5. Enjoy the fostering of peace and forgiveness in all your relationships. Also known to positively affect the endocrine system – particularly gall bladder and adrenal issues.
6. Gain a keen awareness of your very own spirit in this powerful yet delicately performed miracle of healing. Experience deep spiritual and emotional healing while cleansing your immune system of common infections. Super-charge your circulatory system to support your healthy heart and blood flow.
7. Revel in the frequency that celebrates the King of Kings. Purely spiritual – connect in the worship of God, His love for humankind, and His return to those who await Him.
Each CD in the package comes with songs played at certain frequencies to get listeners to a spiritual level using the same New Age techniques and even New Age lingo to heal mind, body and soul. Among the more concerning tunes:
- Open Door “This beautiful piece literally opens you up to receive the healing.
- The Bridge “Fosters forgiveness and peace in your relationships, boosts your endocrine system and heals your adrenal glands and gallbladder.”
- Great Awakening “Provides you with deep spiritual and emotional healing. Become aware of your spirit within while gently cleansing your immune system.”
Several pastors offer their testimonials and endorsements, as do other spiritualists and musicians, like Brian Head Welch, whose latest project includes the Holy Ghost movie (See,“The Holy Spirit Makes a Movie? I don’t think so . . .”):
“A strong deliverance took place in me while Michael performed his song, Lion In The Garden,” says Welsh on the WholeTones website.
Also promoting this as a paid advertisement is Christian promotions outlet, Breaking Christian News.” Founder and CEO Joe Barton himself sent me an urgent email blast,
It’s something I’ve been using every day to eliminate distractions and it’s probably the best mood enhancer I’ve ever used. In fact, I’m listening to the Energy, Health and Well-Being right now while I’m writing this and I’m loving it.
As a person who God saved OUT of this garbage I can’t express how horrifying this is. Back “in the day” my husband and ex-husband were doing this with birth charts…”Lyrical Spirits” I believe the name was. What song the “Universe” played at the moment of your birth, planets having their own particular “note”, etc. Hogwash. But look how this junk “sells”. Maybe “Christians” can practice Yoga while listening to this and get a big satanic two fer. 🙁
It seems the term “remnant” is becoming more and more apt as the days go by.
loved your response here. Thanks for sharing. Times are scary for sure.
Last year I bought the set as I was undergoing chemotherapy for relapsed lymphoma (since resolved by means of a stem cell transplant.
I listened to the tacks repeatedly and nothing happened. I didn’t feel any different. In fact after a while I found the music somewhat irritating )note I am a Christian who enjoys good music that is God glorifying, and I am not musically illiterate).
But the thing that is scary is the following quote from Michael’s website:
“I decided to experiment. I found reference to King David in my Bible on page 222.
Now I don’t know if this was divine intervention or not, but something told me to double that page number and re-tune my guitar…
That’s when I realized…
I think I just discovered the key of David.”
God has revealed Himself totally in His Word (sola Scriptura), so extra Biblical experiences l like this have to be classified as suspect. Added to which my copy of the Bible no doudt has different page numbering! God doesn’t give us guidance by this or other “experiences”.
So I agree with the thesis of the original article
While I do respect your opinion concerning Wholetones, I would say 2 things in response. As one who has studied suppliments for most of 30 years, I do know that sometimes they do not work for an individual and other times they show amazing results like returning my hearing in one ear to almost normal in 2 weeks. But also there are times where some good is indeed being done in the body but it is not on a level for us to notice. Just making a suggestion that this could be the case.
My second thought is that God has spoken to others and myself in various and even unique ways over the years. Just because something is not specifically mentioned in scripture does not make the case that it is against God’s will or not a truth. Almost none of our modern technology was spoken of in the bible, but that in no way makes it wrong or sinful. I obviously was not there when MIchael had that thought about page 222. But one thing I know VERY well is I will not put God in a box saying he wouldn’t do that. Well I’ll tell you what, to jump to conclusions (especially when not having all the facts) when something does not directly violate God’s word is to try and put God in a box. And yes, I even believe close minded. : )
Is already more or less since you wrote this coment, and I aprecciated every thing you said and also is good to mention that the tuning instruments, to a higher frecuency all together is better than to leave in 444 ….
Yes, Yes, Yes. So glad someone said that. To add my two cents which may or may not coincide with the above- I believe we who profess to know Christ have mistaken “narrow is the road” with being synonymous to narrow of mind.The two are not necessarily the same thing. They are not interchangeable and it is definitely not always necessary to “marry” the two. Hopefully we will begin to (in depth) educate ourselves on an individual level as to what really took place and was being written in the beginning of Christianity and the early churches before Constantine. Though some branches were practicing paganism of course- many who believed devoutly in Christ were not of those practices and they lived in a much deeper and broader spectrum of Christ than we do today. So I’m sure ‘Whole Tones’ would have been accepted by many “Christians” in that culture had it been presented to them. We have taken the galactic measure of scripture (IMHO) and shoved into a shoe box, cutting out whatever portions don’t fit our comfort level and have cherry picked scripture to justify it; as such we have done the same to the Heavenly Father. This was definitely and historically not the case in the lengthy and early days of Christianity.
Good morning Jenny,
It appears, from your writing that you are influenced by other than the Word of God.
“…have mistaken “narrow is the road” with being synonymous to narrow of mind.”
God’s word makes it VERY clear that our live should be “wrapped” around Him and Him alone.
Anything else is mysticism.
Else the Roman Catholic church with their praying to saints, worshipping Mary, transubstantiation of the body and blood, etc is correct and their
doctrines and philosophies are EQUAL with the Bible.
We know, of course, they aren’t but by disagreeing with them puts us in the category you mentioned. Narrow minded.
Take for example the Ephesians. Their practices were banned immediately. They burned their scrolls which were worth several millions of dollars.
The early Christians (those that became believers and disciples) devoted their time to Christ. There was no variation from their study or praise.
Whole Tones would NOT have been accepted by early Christians because it would have lent to sorcery.
“We” have not shoved the Scriptures into a shoebox. They came that way. Jesus made it very clear:
If a person is not born again, they cannot enter the kingdom of heaven (pretty shoeboxy to me). John 3:3
I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (Pretty narrow. Wouldn’t you say). John 14:6
I think a little more study will show you that the Bible is very specific and narrow in it’s teaching.
This is just another variation of Neoplatonic Mysticism, otherwise knowm today as Contemplative Prayer. The basic idea is that by using a methodology one can “ascend” back toward some previously lost or intended state of godhood (APOTHEOSIS).
Thank you, too, for your very good commentary. I wanted you to know that, having read my short critique, and heard of my concerned call to an area marketing group, the product creator, Michael Tyrrell has contacted me. So, I wrote him back asking him to withdraw his product from the marketplace. For the sake of those who may be spiritually confused by this darkness, I hope he does. Thanks again for your faithfulness to address such issues of our time! – just another Christian, Dr. Ludden
Hogwarts is everywhere. Abstain from all appearances of evil. I too was saved from New (You) Age trash, which is spiritual morphine, and to see this stuff is sickening.
Hi Richard, I respect your opinion as I’m glad to hear you have been delivered out of the new age movement. I would ask you however, have you looked into the medical and scientific aspect of musical frequencies? Two doctors and 2 physicists along with others helped Michael Tyrrell develop this. Much of the time, new age or mysticism stems out of a belief system. This is based on science and not a belief system. But on the other hand, there are some scientific basis for some of the things that new agers are involved in. I have a chiropractor friend who has branched off into using healing frequencies (using a machine) to heal her patients. When you find the correct frequency which matches the part of the body you need help with, that organ or body part will tend to heal, sometimes very quickly. Does this sound like something as a Christian you would run away from? To me, this is nothing different from using infrared penetrating heat to help heal muscle damage. It is simply another modality for healing. The danger I think some here fall into which is common among Christians is to throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. Because new agers deal with frequencies, then to use them ourselves must be the “appearance of evil” even though God created them for our benefit. I believe rather, that the new age has used things like this for ungodly use, but it’s high time God’s people take back some of these things realizing them for what they really are. That is a gift from God. I also ask myself, “Does doing this or using this bring me closer or further away from God?” I say with Wholetones, it has helped inspire me as I worship. I have also experienced physical benefits and healing as well. So if the Bible is not adressing it, it has good fruit associated with it (read the vast positives testimonies online) and my conscience is not telling me no, then I am fine with it. If your conscience is saying no for any reason, then stay away, and I totally respect that. Anyway, thanks for letting me exress a few ideas. And yes, I pray, read His word and do HIs will for my life on an ongoing basis, so I’m not a baby Christian but followed Him for 54 years. God bless.
I went to his website and read plenty of it. I also have been very into music for a long time.
Scientists also claim there is an abundance of factual evidence that the flood never happened, the bible is not true, that nothing has been created, evolution is real and that dinosaurs existed 65 million years ago. Scientist’s beliefs do not express scientific evidence. It is a robe of authority to be worn and abused. Scientists are not sovereign just because they claim to be scientists. They are not infallible when they speak ex-cathedra.
The thing is, this reminds me of guided meditation. When you go through it you have been hypnotized into believing what it will do for you. It’s mind games. I don’t have itching ears. This reminds me of chakra healings.
The claims he makes about King David and all this cannot be trusted. All these new ideas that spin off of new age ideas are just springing up everywhere. Yes, not even one scale on the serpent can be trusted.
Scientists used to believe Heroin should be a drug available in the pharmacy. I trust God, not man. People trust man far more than God. Their god is truly just their own mind.
Music is all vibrations, yes. There are resonant frequencies, absolutely. It did seem to make sense in a way, he did make a clear statement about how it isnt new agey, but something wasnt right.
The suggestive programming is annoying and it uses spiritual bait. The extravagant things this man claims sets red flags off. I know plenty of sorcerers that have a wealth of positive testimonies from others. New agers use crystals a lot. Does that mean you will eventually also use crystals for healing?
I am deeply familiar with these candy coated, esoteric and evil techniques. If the bible says nothing explicitly against using heroin, it doesnt mean that it is then ok to use it. God created it, some say. Well God created arsenic too, but doesnt mean I should ingest it. I could be among the fools that will try to abuse that Genesis verse about herbs and seeds to justify drug addiction, but no thanks.
The songs, the way they were presented, titled, described and ordered all was too familiar to ignore.. people who have not experienced certain things are more prone to stand against the warnings that are offered.
“Science” forces us to believe we are just animals that have evolved and will continue to evolve into godhood. There still is true science that goes on, but I am aware of who the god of this world is and what his agenda is and what his methods are. Corruption is rampant.
Music has been a healing influence on me through many dark times too, but I have also listened to drones and various “healing music” that are all in cahoots with spirits that do not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.
People hate those who stand for the gospel and are filled with a haughty arrogance in their eyes, stoked with the corrupt fires of “science” and “industry”. Soon unborn children will be the prime stoker of their forges which thirst to create, in a depraved pridefulness, their own heaven and their own mortality here. There is a great amount of transhumanist fervor going on as well. I dont identify you as this, but we are in these times and we need to be as wise as serpents and gentle as doves.
Btw, not *mortality, but *immortality. There is a powerful pride that is in lockstep with the prince of the power of the air and it is sweeping across the world.
I appreciate your response to my post. In reading thoughtful responses, it greatly helps me to understand better where someone is coming from.
As one follower of Jesus to another, please let me say that if we were to sit down and have a lengthy talk, we would no doubt find that with the vast majority of things concerning the things of God, we would be in agreement.
I very much appreciate your desire to not be involved into something your conscience has forbidden. And we know what the apostle Paul said in Romans 14:23 that if you have doubts about doing something, then to you it is sin. (New Living) So if anyone’s conscience bothers them over something, by all means avoid it.
While I still believe there is nothing inherantly sinful about Wholetones, I would also add that most anything can be lifted up to become an idol even things that are inherantly not evil in themselves including Wholetones.
Could I mention about your comment on science? I think one has to be careful to not throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak. Science is in no way at or near the top of my reasons to accept Wholetones. My order of examining something as to it being good or bad for me is this:
(1) God’s holy word
(2) My conscience along with God speaking to me one way or another
(3) Whether it bears good or bad fruit in my life or with others
(4) Counsel with other well seasoned Christians as to their wisdom on the matter
(5) Finally, if there is scientifically proven basis for the effectiveness of something
I am in agreement when you talk about science becoming a god. I spoke with an athiest for an hour last week and you knew right away that science is his god. So please don’t get too hung up on the fact that I stated that Wholetones has scientific merit. As science is not one of the top reasons for me but it is on the list.
I only trust scientific evidence with the knowledge that it can change and it must line up with the word of God. Saying that, on the other side of the coin, there is much of science that once discovered remains truth. Put in proper perspective science is ordained of God to help understand this creation better and to also better our lives which it has.
So, in conclusion, you may disagree with me, but with no Biblical scriptures condeming Wholetones, I believe the arguments posted here against it are based on personal conviction. And if that is the basis, then we probably will never convince each other, but that’s ok. I very much respect your convictions brother. God bless you Richard.
Herald Iverson…Thank you Thank you Thank you, your response surley provoked by Ruach Hokodesh as I read some fearful responses I was thinking do they not know that it all originates with God the enemy has stolen and perverted the approach mainly because it is so effective..I am confident the Lord has given whole tones as spiritual tools gifts of healing emphesis on GIFTS. Thank You for sharing the wisdom blessings
By his stripes, we were healed. He is the Great Physician. He is everything. I once had a vision that had a verse in a book I had not yet read: Jeremiah 17:14 “Heal me, O Lord and I shall be healed, save me, and I shall he saved, for thou art my praise.”
I am someone who loves music very much. I play it and listen to it passionately very often. I have heard of these resonant frequencies before, but I have also had a great deal of spiritual experience in sorcery and various other things. I knew demons existed before I knew that Christ could save me. His grace is sufficient for me. I trust in his word. As He has said, let it be so.
This man has set off so many red flags. He claims to have found the Key of David. He has the same tactics of things I was quite familiar with before Christ. We ought to respect the reason the Lord puts watchmen in the body of Christ.
You do know few scientists feel the bible is inerrant? Few christian colleges do as well. Do you know that few Christians seem to glorify God as Creator because of so-called Science? They claim they will only believe things that are published in peer-reviewed articles and yet there is great bullying, suppression and dishonesty in the treatment of scientists who believe in God to begin with. If you wear a lab coat, you are the Pope. People’s god is their own mind and then God is their helper at most.
I have experienced miracles and healings from the one true living God, not from a man who claims to have discovered the Key of David and uses the predictive placebo programming in his presentation. Sorcerors have lots of people who will tell people of things they’ve positively done for them, but I will follow God because that is “what works for me”.
This “Key of David” is very suspect. How the Key of David turns up in the bible is more important than how it turns up in new movements that are cropping up in these deception-laden times.
Gerald Iverson- last time I comment, but really agree with your perspective above and thank your for sharing.
Jenny, thank you for your positive response to my postings. I only posted them for others to read and consider. With all due respect, I never expected Richard or the originater of this blog to be “convinced” but rather that others reading this might receive food for thought. Thanks again for your support for my postings here. God bless!
Just for clarification, contemplative prayer practiced by mainstream Christians throughout the centuries simply allows believers to rest with and in God and listen to His movements and leading. We are not trying to achieve any special state or knowing. On the contrary, we simply want to be in touch with our Triune God and trust that He comes as He desires in times of silence. It’s about the most humble one can do is to recognize that we are nothing apart from Him. We simply wait for Christ and seek to rest in Him. Any deviation from that is not true contemplative prayer.
It’s very hard to think people believe this kind of thing, especially Christians! The fact they don’t see how God clearly warns against turning to these vices not only hurts God, but puts them in grave spiritual danger. Why don’t people even question the fact this is a money making scheme?
Should ministers of the gospel work and preach for free? Michael Tyrell travels and does ministry with music and preaching. Is he supposed to do it for free? MIchael also has devoted much of his life to work with these tones which bring healing into the body. With genetics, scientists use 528 htz to repair DNA in petrie dishes a very common occurrence. I spoke with Michael privately on FB as he stated in a video that he knew many would copy his work and pass it around. He said go ahead! I asked him privately if he minded if I did just that and he said “that’s what this is for.” So to state this is a money making scheme would not seem to line up with the facts from my personal experience with him. He is very much a God loving and giving man.
As a Doctor of Arts in Music, I have investigated the musical claims of mr. Tyrrell. While the technical revelations are unverifyable (e.g. King David’s pitch altitude), the accompanying data are unsubstantiated (a=444…what “a” ?) and the conclusions are pure idiocy. As for the Spiritual foundations for the other 6 special numbers (assumed to be frequencies and mistakenly played as tones), they can be found in dark mysticism and ungodly numerology. DO NOT BUY THIS MAGIC MUSIC !!! – DR. Paul R. Ludden
UPDATE: I wanted you to know that, having read my short critique, and heard of my concerned call to an area marketing group, the product creator, Michael Tyrrell has contacted me. So, I wrote him back asking him to withdraw his product from the marketplace. For the sake of those who may be spiritually confused by this darkness, I hope he does. Thank you all for your faithfulness to address such issues of our time! – just another Christian, Dr. Ludden
What’s the status? Are people enduring sound doctrine or, having itching ears and a love for their own lives, turning to fables and a new doctrine of sound?
Open dialogue with anyone listening:
I do not know Michael Tyrrell personally. I am a mature, college educated, middle age growing Christian guy who was lead to “Wholetones” music.
I have nothing to gain sharing my initial thoughts and general commentary here:
With that said, I attend a regular men’s bible study and pray every day and read passages from the Bible regularly, while calling on Jesus and the Holy Spirit for wisdom and guidance in our fallen, broken, pain-filled world getting darker.
Personally, I have been wounded in my soul and emotions from some people I should have been able to trust. I also have not had sufficient support or compassion from most people at church. But if they have never been betrayed how can they fully understand? So I do my best to forgive and be a beacon of light to those who hurt me and anyone I cross paths with.
With that said, I enjoy worship music in church and listen to Christian rock bands. My favorite is Third Day.
Okay, back to Wholetones and frequency topic. After reading that the Psalmists and great musical hyms include uplifting music and certain frequency tones that are soothing, I was open minded to hearing about healing aspects of Michael Tyrrell’s Christian music. He seems genuine to me, in all honesty and preaches the Word from the bible. Yes, he is somewhat charismatic, but that’s okay with me.
I ordered his 7 CD set and am enjoying it, as is my wife, for relaxing in our stressful world. In no way do we think of it as a substitute for reading the bible and hearing from the Lord. We simply see his music as an accompaniment and creative expression honoring God who gave us creativity.
There is nothing new age about this music unless you think David used it while playing his harp back in the bible! This is natural God given music and an answer to prayer as it was blessed to heal Michaels mom from cancer and all medication. These are frequencies being tested by scientists as they have discovered DNA repair and telomere lengthening in the body . Can God heal the body with something as simple as music? I would say with God all things are possible! If you listen to a babbling brook there is a frequency. A cat purring- frequency…and many are of these Are healing and soothing to people. Please don’t falsely accuse a Christian brother that has dedicated his life to Christ and seeks to help others. God bless!
Where’s Jesus in all this?…..Jesus healed and cast out demons with a word….yes, the distressing spirit that God sent to Saul left when David began to play the harp…..but I don’t see where Saul was required to pay money for David to play…..seems the music and the music’s creator is getting all the glory….not Jesus…..I look over the websites and articles and don’t see Jesus….Y’shua Ha Mashiach……mentioned….ever…..now, there’s a problem with that and it’s always a key to discerning……it’s the name above all names……and if you don’t see or hear it…….beware …..there’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing……
Debbie, can I add a couple of thoughts to your post? My first thought is, how do you know David did not get paid to play for Saul? Not a big deal, but is an assumption you are making. Second, Michael in his videos has stated that these frequencies were given to us and specifically A444 given to David as he played before King Saul. Finally, do you realize that Michael Tyrrell researched this for 18 years before even recording these tracks? That means Michael received NO income or money off this for 18 years! If he was just a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” he would have cranked out anything very soon just to make money. That simply did not happen. I do appreciate your opinions, but just wanted to weigh in with mine. God bless you Debbie.
Sorry Debbie, I meant to say that Michael stated these frequencies were given by God. I just do not see him taking glory. Even in the studio when he recorded the tracks, he said he went in with no music. He depended on the Holy Spirit to give him the music which is exactly what happened. Another miracle as 7 tracks of 22 minutes each in 8 days is a miracle.
Doesn’t this mean it is possibly channelled then? Or are we just supposed to trust that it was the Holy Holy Spirit because he said it was?
I did all the research I could on Michael Tyrrell before buying the CD’s. Just the music alone has boosted my worship times each morning as I sing my own song to the Lord using the beautiful music. As far as the healing power of the frequencies, I had a gash around my ankle caused from a heavy object falling on it. For 1 1/2 weeks it wouln’t heal. It got a red ring about 3/4″ (infection) around the wound. I tried epsom salts 2 times but to no effect. Then I received his Cd’s. I listened to them all day and the next day the infection was almost gone! It healed up very soon after that. The new age actually uses some scientific things that come from Jesus himself but they do not give God the glory. That is the counterfeit. We have something as a tool given by God just like herbs were given by Him for our healing. This is a gift from God himself. There is much scientific basis for the healing nature of frequencies. Michael consulted 2 doctors and 2 physicists in his work which spanned 18 years not to mention many others research. I have gotten to know Michael through Facebook and have grown to understand him as a man of great faith, integrity, passion and love for others. He is the real deal, and I really would hope people would actually look to the facts and put their emotions on the back burner. This is a loving and caring man who is legit. I personally hope he is able to make some good money as “a workman is worthy of his hire.” God bless you Michael.
I have been a believer since 1971. I also am a worshiper musician. I have been on worship teams in every church that I have attended. I have heard arguments regarding which music you should or shouldn’t listen to and I agree we are to be aware and make choices. However, we believers need to be aware and not allow fear to guide your decisions. Could it possibly be that the new age movement has a truth?…that the enemy does not want the heirs to salvation to have or bnenfit from. .I listen to Yarni and felt the presence of God and wonder why?? Until recently, the Lord has had me on a path of searching out frequencies, tones…etc. I have found that the enemy will deceive us into thinking that what was created by God is not good, because some one has labelled in New Age. So. in my searching, praying and asking the Holy Spirit to lead me in all truth, i came across Wholetones. This is when I realized that the presence of God that I experienced in the music of Yarni was the frequency that was being used that God created and not necessarily the music. If you dig a little, you will find that the sun’s frequency is 528 and so is the grass! Who made the sun and the grass? In conclusion, it is natural to fear the unknown. We need to investigate before we call something good evil.
Gloria, I couldn’t agree more with you that fear binds many and even most Christians. We tend be fearful of things we do not understand. We also tend to use emotion all to often instead of God’s word and common sense and logic that was given to us by God to be judgemental of something. If something new doesn’t feel right when we speak against it on that basis, we are dealing with nothing but emotion. But if it has scientific basis (which wholetones does) and it doesn’t go counter to God’s word and it is uplifting then why would there be any issue? I am 62, been saved at 8 and been a musician for most my life and have matured through the years to understand pretty much when something is of God or not. I would ask is there good lasting fruit here? I would answer yes in my and others experiences. In fact, the music has helped to boost my worhip and prayer time as it plays in the background. Is it counter to God’s word? I can find nothing here that runs counter. Does the new age use frequencies? Yes. Does that make it automatically sinful for a Christian to use music with specific frequencies? NO. The new age has used a beautuful tool from God to their benefit without giving Him the glory. We can use that same tool for God’s glory! Should we not use money because it can be a tool for greed? Of course not! The music is not evil in any way. It is all in how it is used just like money. The music could be a blessing or a curse to the unbeliever. Lets use wisdom and discernment in maturity instead of knee jerk reactions out of emotion and fears. God bless!
Please let me clarify something. I asked the question ” Does that make it automatically sinful for a Christian to use music with specific frequencies?” I in no way am suggesting that some feel music is sinful but rather the question was addressing the idea of using or embedding frequencies with the intent of having a healing effect on the preson’a emotions and body. I think you stated something that was never implied.
And your other point was that I used zero scripture. Why would I have to use any scripture that may indicate using this music is ok? I cannot find any scripture that could condemn it, That is the burden of proof that I must consider. In many things, scripture doesn’t say it’s ok to do this or that but there are principles that you must consider whether something may be right or not to do. Those I certainly did cover. And if scripture doesn’t address it, you must consider your conscience as Paul stated in Romans 14:23. At this point, some may not feel the freedom to listen to it, then to them it is sin according to that verse. I feel in no way has either God or my conscience condemned this beautiful music. It has shown good fruit in my life and has only helped to enhance my worship time. I believe the burdon of proof lies with those who want to condemn the music. Now again, if your conscience bothers you over this I would encourage you to stay away from it. But that is between you and God. Finally you stated to compare what is claimed by the proponents of this to the actual word of God. I believe the most they have said in my recollection is that the music is healing. They have put up several testimonies including of those who write in with them. Where is the issue here? In Genesis God stated He put the herbs of the field for our benefit and they assist the body to help it heal. There are many things God has given for our physical and emotional healing. This is simply one more tool. I or they never claimed it is a magic bullet, just something God has blessed us with. I see NO conflict with the word of God and Wholetones. I see you are the author of this site. So with all respect, I see no scripture from you that would indicate this is not something Christians should be involved with. You could throw up something in general like “be ye separate with the world” or “be not conformed to this world.” But then again, scriptures like these are so open to interpretation that I don’t think we would get anywhere. Again brother, if your conscience is in conflict, you shouldn’t have anything to do with it. I totally respect that. But to put up a site speaking out against it when many others have no issue with their conscience and are also benefitting in many ways, is this really a wise thing to do? Unless you have good concrete scripture condemning it why not just leave it up to the individual’s own conscience? God bless!
I drive a truck 11 hours a day, I have to listen to something, I purchased his Christmas music. I am much more calm when driving, and cuss out other drivers much less, I am not listening to rock music as much, I find myself thinking of other people in my life, and their feelings. I find myself thinking of God much more, why would this be evil? I don’t understand saying this is sorcery. There is so much crap, and lies, and evil music on the radio where the artists flash devil and Illuminati signs and tattoos. And your knocking a guy that talks about God and plays Christian music? Sure hes gonna charge money, its not free to put this out, who could afford to pay all expenses to put it in publics hands. Go after the admitted devil worship music and let a little good music be around!
there are so many mysteries built into the universe and our bodies…in the Lord Jesus all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden…so it is only through Him that any truth is known………do frequencies help heal the body and brain?….I believe they do…and I am a very conservative believer in the Lord Jesus, “For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities– all things have been created through Him and for Him.”………….the enemy can only twist truth, he cannot create it and the Father sent Jesus ” to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.”……to redeem us from every sin, darkness and lie that the enemy has ever invented…….”To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled.”………….and finally, I find it very strange that those who condemn something so restful, natural and non-invasive, will gladly consume and condone every pharmaceutical and synthetic drug that the doctor prescribes to them (which without exception damage both body and brain in other ways)……I do understand the concerns, these are deceptive times…we need to be grounded in the Word of God (the Bible) and allow the Holy Spirit to transform us….by renewing our minds in the Word “We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ”…..
Randall, very well reasoned defense there. Before i went through counseling with a Christian prefessional counselor, I thought I had NO fears as God was my rock. How wrong I was! 365 times in scripture God said Fear not or be not afraid. One for every day of the year. He knows we are prone to fear. My point is, Christians along with others will tend to refute out of hand some things they do not understand. The root emotion is often fear. After learning of my fears and recognizing them, the fears vanished. Of course wisdom, common sense and most importantly the Bible are needed to judge whether something is of God or not. But we Christians also tend to want to put God in a box thinking He would never work that way. I have heard of so many miracles that were out of the box done by God that caused me to repent to Him for my narrow mindedness. God can and does do supernatural miracles in lives of others and in myself. But more often He uses others to bring His answers.
Michael Tyrrell’s business has attracted some attention and I’ve read the comments on this page with interest. It’s important that Christians, when they sell things, are honest in their advertising. I’m not suggesting that Mr. Tyrrell’s claims for his products are dishonest but I do suspect that they are possibly immodest. In any case, they are not new claims. They are modern echos of ancient beliefs, ancient beliefs that are well known and just as well known for their problems, contradictions, and failures.
If you’re interested in an introduction to music and tuning and claims for musical healing, you can read these two chapters (they can be read for free).
All best wishes,
Mike Linton, Professor of Music
Middle Tennessee State University
This is eastern mysticism by yet another disguise and a gateway into false spirituality. Notice that the 7 “whole tones” and colors correspond to the 7 “chakras” of hindusim/yoga/kundalini. Even the logo of the 7 CDs arranged as a multi-colored lotus flower which represents the “crown” or 7th chakra. Intentionally or not, it is clear what the influence is on Tyrell’s spirituality. We all should be careful to always search the scriptures and prove all things.
Additionally, there is a repeated claim that David used the 444 frequency to tune his harp that he played for King Saul. I would be very interested to see how this claim is backed up, it would be quite the archaeological find.
Greetings to you all. May His peace be upon you, and His wisdom guide you in all things.
As a musician and a follower of Christ, I find this discussion interesting.
I am well acquainted with both the so-called new age movements, as well as christian societies. I have two things to say about both, and that is that humans of great delusion often fills both categories. There are also genuine seekers amongst both. And those who love Him and do His will, are fewer than one should wish for. Therefore am I careful with both. I used to buy into a lot of the stories that came from many of them, but now I wait. I wait for God Himself to reveal everything true and good, in me. As He promised to meet me in my body, I expect Him. Am I ready? Hardly. Will He forgive me? Always. Does He Love me? Forever.
Let me claim. We are all sinners, and stand very little chance of becoming free of sin, unless we become like Him. Those who claim they have become like Him are obviously always the worst delusional people we have seen on earth.
Secondly. We just don´t know it all. We at best understand partly.
It hurts me to see that you guys are throwing the evil card on everyone. Didn`t He tell you to Love His children, that is your next kin, like yourself? Why are you always seeing evil? Yes, satan is around, and he don´t like that we know, but the power bestowed upon us is clear. We shall rebuke and bind satan and all his demons with the power given us by God, by His Son Jesus the Christ. There is no need to fear other than departing from our Father.
The science behind these claims of “the right frequencies” is interesting, but should obviously be an open source science aimed at servicing His coming and benefit humanity as one, under our Creator. Any christian should know the seriously metaphysical nature of the Bible and its Books. There is frequencies in absolutely all there is. So for me that indicates that The Word is in all there is and that it can´t exist without the Word.
That said, there are no proof or scientific presentation on the claims of the 432 or the 444 tuning, and others, in most discussions about this. Neither are there any substantial proof of either. I have delved a bit into both claims, and find the mathematics of it to be so advanced that it will take a lot of time to study. Some have done that though, and some are presenting their studies far better backed and without the obvious 99.99, be saved on a physical level, bullshit. Who said “suffer little children to come unto Me”?
I am not a mathematician, but it seems to me that the question of the “right tuning” is somewhat out of tune. I seldom see anybody in that discussion, highlighting the fact that the frequencies of music is without steps. The blues and folk music are great examples, especially before the academic institutions acknowledged them.
I have studied some of these topics. One of the remarkable things about tuning in the folk musics of both Norway, my homeland, and Africa, is that there used to be an enormous variation of tunings amongst stringed instrument players. Probably this is the case with other parts of the world to. It is even the case with classical music, and on wikipedia will you be able to find when and how standardisation entered at different stages. We are all now more or less under this standardisation.
I have a tendency to believe that God is with His people everywhere, at all times, and that He loves every thing He created, as He obviously even Loved satan himself. Musical expression has always had a deep connection to our relationship to our Father, as well as it has been used by His enemies. He said: Love of money is the root to all evil. Well, If we don´t even know how to give Cesar what belongs to him, and our Father what belongs to Him, then we are bewildered at best, or corrupted and fallen from Him at worst. I am sorry, but to me it seems we all have to work on our true relationship to our Father, and love each-other, and forget about who is doing the works of satan. Satan is doing the works of satan, we are lost in his play. If we stay with the Creator within, trust in Him and seek His advice and help in all things, it will be sufficient. Please don´t follow doctrines, or divide, but pray and love as He told us.
I will pick up my guitar, or any instrument. Tune it to whatever may be convenient or pleasing at the moment, and focus on the fruits of the spirit, and my relationship to my Father, and my fellow man and woman. I will express my gratefulness, my hopes, my faith, my love, my sorrow, and my joy, just like my Father wants me to.
Let me warn you also. Don´t judge your brother, no matter what he believes, says, does, or thinks. The judgement is not ours. Rebuke satan, but love your brother. Don´t fall prey to believing you know it all, when He clearly addressed our lack of understanding so many times. Don, add or subtract to His Word, just ask Him to teach and guide you. If humbleness don´t follow your thought, words, and walks, it ain´t right. Who shall we fear?
Again. May His Peace be upon you, and may His Light guide your every step, on your way trough this world, and back at His feet.
Tune yourself to Him, and He will reveal His heavenly music to you.
We can roll over and love despite the dangers, but warning the flock is more an act of love than passing it over at face value.
God loves Satan? You know what Satan has done, is doing and will do?
New age people usually have a lazy, shallow, mindless love that gives them the authority to redefine good and evil based on comfort or for the sake of smoothey disguised prideful and rebellious pontifications. We cannot have their broad way of thinking. A broad way of thinking requires no discernment and shallow roots everywhere.
This man is claiming some radical things. I am familiar with frequencies and with resonance but this is all the makings of a new age, guided meditation with radical claims, has hallmarks of a chakra healing session. I am not going to waste my time and money to see if he is true, I know my Lord is faithful and true and he has healed me.
Do you know where we are on the timeline? There are so many deceptions going on! False prophets, false Christs are cropping up and now this man is claiming to have found the exact key of David. I do know the Lord raises a standard against the enemy, but in no way does the standard look anything like the enemy’s, especially when it seems to fall in line with the season.
I am too familiar with the new agey stuff by experience to ignore this stuff. People who choose to only see good in it do not understand why folks like me would dare warn. It is unloving to not admonish for the sake of the flock. Being popular is not important. Warning is not always greeted with joy and acceptance but it is necessary.
Amen brother, discernment above all. I have now read almost all comments on this article and carefully thought about all the arguments pro and con. I have concluded that I have been deceived and delivered so many times, that fear of the Lord prevents me from walking into anything not specifically addressed in scripture. There is plenty of great praise music, and there are quite a few YouTuve videos of academic nature of different individuals playing the “King David Harp” with no claims or mysticism attached, if you are looking to listen to “King David Harp” music–though I prefer Integrity Praise or Maranantha! Singers. I will pass on WholeTones because I believe the Lord will heal me if he wants to heal me just by asking Him in prayer. His will be done. The first thing I did notice about the WholeTones web site is the Lotus flower. Usually you can see where something is coming from with just one symbol. It’s just too risky to venture into these waters. As a seasoned Christian I would say don’t chance it–it’s not worth it. Bondage is a terrible thing.
I guess I didn’t,t express myself too clearly. So let me try to clarify a few things, and answer your questions as well.
Yes, the timeline is clearly coming seriously close to the prophesied signs. Although we should not tell the hour or the day, as you know, but be ready, and work for His harvest, true till the end.
I correct myself. There is no evidence that God loves satan now, and I didn’t intend to claim that neither, but there is indication that He might have loved him very much before he fell (Ezekiel 28:12-18). And the dirtier he became the further from God he fell. There is plenty of evidence in the Bible that God hates sin, and hence the ways of satan. What I was aiming at was Gods Love for all His beings. Not that He don’t hate sin.
Yes, I certainly know what the Bible is telling us about satan and I see his works. Impressive, yet pitiful they are, compared to the Father and His servants.
I don’t know if I can agree that we cannot have a broad way of thinking, especially if God has granted us a strong intellect. How will we grow in understanding if we are constricted from studying and grow? in concepts that we haven’t experienced ourselves, or learned from the highest teacher? But the need to keep to His word will always have to be the guideline. And staying true to Him, will take you through all the snares of shallow, lazy and diluted philosophies, I believe. Hence my referral to the partly understanding that Jesus told us about.
Yes, I agree. It would be a waste of money, and probably time. 🙂
Now some more personal viewpoints.
I don´t find the claims from Mr. Tyrrell or any of his associates, trustworthy. I personally find the whole presentation off point, and aiming at anything than revealing new and truthful information. I find it pretentious and deceitful. Boastful and containing ridiculous claims. I find it to be at best a money making scheme, or derived from misguidance, and can, and will also at worst, be of a satanic nature in such a way that it leads more people astray.
Music itself is in my view, one of the great many wonders of God, and a wonderful gift to us.
To say that all the wonderful music that over the centuries has been inspired by God, is out of sync or off a poorer quality due to it’s tuning, is to me extremely arrogant. If however satan was able to take away our musical benefits, given us by God, in order to destroy us more, which I suppose would have been great in satans eyes. Then I guess it is just as well done, and has been done, by parts of the music industry itself, tuned or detuned. 😉
I wouldn’t mind if we gained greater understanding of the wonders of God, and I don’t doubt that they might come due to our listening from within to Him. On the other side I don’t really think we need so much scientific explanation. We need to be close to God, and love one-another, not to know how to categorise or describe His Omnipotent Magnitude. So it should be clear that I share your scepticism.
Yes, I protect your right to warn against silly solutions to great problems, deceit, lies, boastfulness, greed, pride and so on. We guess both share the basic idea of where such expressions come from. And they are also part of the human and fleshly existence, which we should lay off by our efforts to be His true followers.
I wasn’t referring to your words in particular neither, but to all who forget to express his/her love to any brother and sister, lead astray or not. Because it is in my view Jesus Christ’s Love we should carry as an example, in order to help bring all we can back to Him. By being an example, studied and trained in His ways. His ways is enough study for any human being, even if the person should live for thousands of years.
My concern was that we must still show utter respect and love towards all, even those who might be the children of belial. I would never roll over with love, as you express it. I am anything but a weakling anymore, solely due to Gods place in my life. Of course I am weak as always in my flesh, but strong by the hand of my Father. My ability to love is strong, due to Gods Love for me. And I fear not standing against the attacks of the world, and its ruler, or any of his mouthpieces, because of Gods promises to me, and my faith in Him.
So I support your choice to warn against the works of satan, 100%. I appreciate your choice to be unpopular if needed, surely. And no, warning and true guidance has seldom been met by a cheering crowd, except when Jesus walked our earth. Please accept my dimes worth. I am one of His little ones. God bless you.
With deepest respect for your work, K
We can’t tell the hour or day but we know the season. Matthew 24. We are to bring all things into the obedience of Christ, not accept all things in the name of love. It is a narrow path and we are to be unstained from the world. I have shared my background, which reveals I know about these things so intimately that I can detect patterns as clear as day and then, having been born again and saved from the madness of sorcery and other darknesses, I have a duty to warn those who are not as cognizant of the patterns and are endangered by them because they have a well-meaning heart.
Absolutely. The presentation, the claims, red flag right away. Why would the rest of the tree be good and fruitful if from the outset it is clearly not sound doctrine. I love music too but I also know that the occult and the fanaticism of Aleister Crowley has always been strong in the music industry. If you listen to Tyrell’s music only after you are told what it will do, why is it a surprise?
I say that because it is easier to deceive someone who is showing unconditional love to you, but yes you are absolutely right 100% about the most important thing in all things: love. You can understand all things, all mysteries and have all faith and offer your body to be burned, but without love, it is all nothing.
I myself am recovering from a traumatic brain injury and from this autoimmune disease that has had my body attacking my brain since childhood.
Of the fruits of the spirit, self-control has suffered when I am in some struggles with my fatigue and then I encounter unpleasant atheists on g+ or I am still caught in this one relationship.
Pray for me on this, I know I am close to getting the antibiotics I need and am getting a blood test tomorrow to confirm. I will be as right as rain eventually, the Lord has already done so much in this life that was lost in ruins before. Had that infection all my life, along with a debilitating mental illness called schizoaffective since first grade.
The brain is the worst part of our body to have afflicted from all angles. It effects everything. I used to believe there was no way God could use me, but 1 Corinthians 1 has a passage that explains it. If I provide a stronger case for Christianity than an atheist provides against it, the very fact I have suffered apparently will give people the right to stomp on me. It is a pattern that reveals who the modern day lepers are.
Okay, enough said. Praise the Lord with harp, sing unto him with a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings! Bless the Lord, O my soul and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Please forgive me for my late reply. I was overwhelmed with the pain I felt that you where going trough, I was even reminded of, and overwhelmed with the feelings of the suffering on this planet. Be sure I cried deeply, and I prayed for you sincerely, when I read your last reply. I felt deeply your pain. I appreciate your honesty, and I will remember and pray for you. I have thought about you frequently since last time.
Trust Him to show you the reason for your pain, why He let you go trough it, even if He loves you so. Ask Him, and trust Him, and listen. Expect Him to answer and guide you trough. Don.t tell Him how. Or disregard anything He present at you. Pay attention. Let not your mind get in the way. Trust Him. He loves you. He always did. My deepest respect, and my best hopes and wishes. Kay
Thank you and yes absolutely agree with you. I know most of the reasons so far. His Sovereign Grace is always sufficient, too. Thank you for your tender heart, God bless you!
My last reply to you took an hour to type, and disappeared off my computer before I could send it. I don’t believe in coincidence. This will be short and to the point.
You are under at least 2 generational curses, which in my experiences and discernment, can be completely loosed from you with miracle healings from God replacing them. Quickly. You were a child when these manifested so to me that makes this easy. At that age, you were blameless in The Fathers eyes. So why?
If you don’t let fear stop you, you will receive the knowledge-Gods knowledge, needed for your restorations. 80 per cent of diseases are spiritually rooted. Fact. Read Henry Wrights book called A More Excellent Way. The last edition, which was the second I believe. Ignore the critics. They are always there. God will handle the rest. Don’t be one who lacks knowledge when and where it is needed. Your miracles are right around the corner. go get them. They are part of your inheritance.
I sent this out of obedience and love.
Contact me if you wish. This site has permission to give you my e mail address-Debbie.
I think what gives it away for me is the Kabbalah flower on the cover RED FLAG!
Yes.. the Jews who are not jews but are of the synagogue of satan. Theres a great deal of shady stuff going on in this world. Kabbalah is not a good sign at all… I am reminded of how Bill Maher was into numerology before he became an “atheist”. Whatever the case, abstain from ALL appearances of evil
One of the big problems with Michael Tyrrell’s claims is that musicians had no way of measuring frequency prior to the 20th century! Instrument tunings were all over the place. Even tuning forks (invented in 1711) were made with a wide variance in pitch. And then he says that David tuned up from an implied standard of “A=440 Hz”… but this pitch was not the standard pitch for “A” until the 20th century. God only knows what pitch standards musicians were using around the time of David, but you can be assured that there are no documents containing references to vibrations-per-second (Hz), as there was no way to measure this!
Another fact not mentioned is that some of these pitches (I haven’t analyzed them all) are extremely close to existing notes in our modern, equally-tempered scale. For example, one of the healing frequencies (417 Hz) is almost identical to the note A-flat (415.305 Hz), a difference that is imperceptible to the human ear (unless played simultaneously, in which case you’ll hear a slow phasing), and well within the common margin of error for the tuning of that note. In fact… that’s closer than any human voice would be able to stay to that pitch while sustaining! Why don’t we hear of anybody getting healed by songs in the key of A-flat?
If you want to try a fun experiment, download a tuning app to your phone, then try and sing any one of the healing frequencies, and see just how well you’re able to stay on that pitch. Then ask yourself just how the Gregorian monks were supposedly able to do so without any pitch measuring tools.
Don’t get me wrong. I believe that God heals, and I have seen it happen with my own eyes. Perhaps God can even use things such as this music to do so. And perhaps there is some scientific reason that our body might resonate with certain of these pitches. None of that, however, changes the fact that many of Michael Tyrrell’s claims are absurd. I would like to believe that Mr. Tyrrell actually believes the things he is saying, because that would be less disturbing to me than the idea that he is simply trying to fleece the desperate and gullible.
Is anyone familiar with “christian soaking music? I use them and this seems to be similar. I listened to the samples and found them very soothing. Anything further than that only time will tell if I decide to purchase them. The soaking cd’s cost money also.
All of this contradictory information on this subject has left me completely confused and with a headache. I have been saved for 35years. and have seen and experienced a lot spiritually. I am just going to have to make my own decision. I know G-d is my healer, not the music. I am just very disappointed because I want to do the right thing.
I like the music and find it very soothing, which is all that matters. You can read whatever you want into this, yoga, meditaton, etc., or it can just be a relaxing, soothing experience. You don’t need to make it satanic OR spiritual.
Well put Susan. In Him lie all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Col 3:2.
All things of science and creation eminate from Jesus himself. It’s up to us to utilize them with wisdom and not make idols out of anything. Many years ago, I used to get a little nervous when someone referred to energy around the human body. I would think of the new agers and think “How could this be of God?” Actually it is of God but man took a good thing and made an idol out of it. It really deals with the heart and the conscience. In Romans 14:23 or 24, it does say if you feel condemned to do something, then to you it is sin. But it also says blessed is the man who does not feel condemned to do something. (paraphrased) So I cannot judge others on this site that feel listening to Wholetones is akin to letting demonic influences in. I totally disagree with them, but I must give them freedom to follow their beliefs. But on the same vein, I would hope those same people would have the maturity to not judge myself or others who do feel free in their conscience to listen to Wholetones. It does go both ways. Finally Fern, be at peace which the Holy Spirit gives. If you cannot come to a place of peace and where your conscience is not offended then by all means you should stay away from it. Bottom line is that this issue should not divide Christians on this site. It’s one thing to disagree with someone but can we do it in love?
As a minister of the gospel for over 30 years, I am saddened by both the ridicule and judgement I have received on this site. I, like many of you, endeavor to shine the light of Christ, and share his love wherever I go. I understand being cautious and “testing EVERY spirit, to see if it is the Lord.” However, since none of you actually know, me, have broken bread with me, or have actually even listened to the worship music I share, or read my book, I find some of your statements far more evil and caustic than I experienced from fellow pagans before I came to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. I won’t try to justify myself, as the burden of proof is not upon my shoulders to validate my ministry. Instead, the burden rests upon your shoulders to prove that I am not a brother in Christ, or a capable minister of the gospel. As for the accusations that my logo is somehow connected to, “New Age,” or Kundalini mysticism…I designed the logo myself by overlapping the seven CD’s and tracing them with a pencil! If you look closely, you will see each one has a little hole in the middle…nothing mystical there. As far as the question, where is the mention of Jesus? If you had read my book or actually listened to my music, you wouldn’t ask that question. My book, “Wholetones The Sound Of Healing,” from the dedication page to the end, is dedicated to my Heavenly Father, and is rife with scripture throughout. God gets ALL of the glory for all I do, and who I am…period. As Paul Ludden mentioned, I contacted him when I was in California, what he failed to mention is that I asked him if we could meet for coffee and talk, he refused, then I asked him if I could send him a copy of my book and music to investigate. I lovingly told him, after reading the book and hearing the music, if he still felt it was offensive, he could throw it in the trash. He was extremely rude and haughty and I asked him to retract his hurtful words about me, as he didn’t know me, refused to meet with me, or audit my materials. He then asked me to take Wholetones off the market. Friends, here is my question to you, if you are Berean, I am sure that you would agree that if a brother offers to take the time to visit you so that you may reason together and come to a verdict based on evidence and not mere hearsay, that I operated in a Christlike fashion? Here is what I know, I have seen more people come to the saving knowledge of Christ, and through Him, receive healing in their bodies and a hunger for His word since releasing Wholetones, than in all of the years I pastored and travelled as an evangelist. I am sorry if in some way I have offended you, but to deny the call of God on my life to satiate the expectations of man, would be a far graver incident, as in doing so, would offend the Holy Spirit. I appreciate your concern and care over the body of Christ, however, be careful lest you judge the Holy Spirit by judging His fruit. By their fruit, you shall know them, dear ones, I assure you, I am bearing much fruit. May God abundantly bless you in your pursuit of righteousness. Sincerely,
Michael S Tyrrell
I only wish to add that I can and will attest to Michael’s declaration to only want to lift up the name of Jesus. We have conversed a number of times on social media and I am convinced that the words he wrote here are honest and true. The fruit of his ministry including Wholetones has been plentiful which is the one thing we can judge is a man’s fruit. Thank you Michael for taking the time to post here. God bless!
Amy, I appreciate your opinions here as we as followers of Jesus should be able to voice our opinions. Let me offer something to consider. I have studied nutritional suppliments for almost 30 years and am now taking suppliments that could possibly be the best available. Do you feel anger is a sin? How about unfounded fears and apprehentions? This is established science that has proven a zinc deficiency can produce anger. A study showed that of all the people on death row which killed in a fit of rage/anger that with no exceptions they ALL had zinc deficiencies! With fears and apprehentions, magnesium deficiency is very often the reason for those negative emotions or that they get overwhelming for us. Does God see us as sinning or do we need the nutrients He has established for us to be healthy? What I told you is established science but also proven by 10’s of thousands of people when they get the nutrition their body is craving. It’s the same thing with Wholetones. Science has shown that frequencies are indeed powerful to help us heal just like the herbs of the field do if taken properly. Bottom line here is it is very easy to take scripture to an extreme so that if scripture doesn’t address it then we shouldn’t do it. If that is the case, then we shouldn’t ever tempt God by driving our vehicles as we know over 30K people die every year by driving. I believe the burdon of proof with scripture is to show where Wholetones is violating scripture. General statements in scripture can be made to mean a lot of things. I’m talking a little more specific here. As far as Michael marketing this as “a Christian thing” if you really do the reading as to how this came about, I do believe God miracously gave this to be used for healing. I have seen amazing miracles including legs growing out just 2 feet away from me so I do believe in creative miracles. But more often God uses things He created on this earth put here for our good. As far as being a “new age thing” the new age took what is good and holy and used it in a perverted way, not as God intended. Does that make frequencies evil? All this knowledge including science and the ability to search it out is given by God. Col 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. If something God created is hid in Jesus, then if used to glorify Him, I see no issue here. I’m only stating my beliefs here based on over 50 years of Bible study and walking in a personal relationship with Him. I say respectively that we do live by God’s word, but He also gave us a brain and wisdom to sort these things out. But I respect your beliefs and opinions as that is what we are expressing here.
We can so often discount things because they seem strange or weird. Growing up in the “Bible Belt” I have been guilty of narrowmindedness out of a fear that I may not be acting, worshipping, sharing or even praying in a way that glorifies and honors God. There seems to be a paranoia that is contagious. A paranoia that something might be new age philosophy. Now, trust me, I know that there are lots of things that “tickle” our ears. But if God can use something secular to build up His Church by building up and uniting the individuals that make His Body, are we not throwing out the baby with the bath water when we dismiss something solely on the basis of it not being something we were taught in Sunday school?
We use hammers to build with. Not only do we not know who the inventor of the hammer that was used by the Romans in 200 bc was, but a hammer was used by the Romans to to nail Christ to the Cross of Calvary. Yet, we wouldn’t think of trying to build a house of worship without it. Some of the things we think are pagan or too ancient in origin to qualify as building God’s Church up are just tools that God can use to help build up His Body to glorify Him. A litmus test for whether it is truly “new age” is if we worship the tool over the Creator. That should be the test for discovering our idols to begin with. Even Godly things can replace true worship when we worship creation above the Creator.
We can so often discount things because they seem strange or weird. Growing up in the “Bible Belt” I have been guilty of narrowmindedness out of a fear that I may not be acting, worshipping, sharing or even praying in a way that glorifies and honors God. There seems to be a paranoia that is contagious. A paranoia that something might be new age philosophy. Now, trust me, I know that there are lots of things that “tickle” our ears. But if God can use something secular to build up His Church by building up and uniting the individuals that make His Body, are we not throwing out the baby with the bath water when we dismiss something solely on the basis of it not being something we were taught in Sunday school?
We use hammers to build with. Not only do we not know who the inventor of the hammer that was used by the Romans in 200 bc was, but a hammer was used by the Romans to nail Christ to the Cross of Calvary. Yet, we wouldn’t think of trying to build a house of worship without it. Some of the things we think are pagan or too ancient in origin to qualify as building God’s Church up are just tools that God can use to help build up His Body to glorify Him. A litmus test for whether it is truly “new age” is if we worship the tool over the Creator. That should be the test for discovering our idols to begin with. Even Godly things can replace true worship when we worship creation above the Creator.
The litmus test for Christians is the Word of God. This gentlemen has made claims that the Lord gave him these tones to heal because they were the tones that King David used to heal. The bible doesn’t say he used his harp to heal…the bible says he used his harp to “bind” is you will a demonic spirit that was seeking to murder him. 1Sa 19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.
1Sa 19:10 And Saul sought to smite David even to the wall with the javelin; but he slipped away out of Saul’s presence, and he smote the javelin into the wall: and David fled, and escaped that night.
1Sa 19:11 Saul also sent messengers unto David’s house, to watch him, and to slay him in the morning: and Michal David’s wife told him, saying, If thou save not thy life to night, to morrow thou shalt be slain. We must rightly divide the word of truth to get at the truth. So many things seem right, but as the Word says: Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. There is so much great praise music out there and Jesus has told us in His Word how to get healed if we will but look it up and obey it, that it isn’t worth getting involved in anything questionable especially since the story of King David in the bible is completely different from King David’s name being used to promote this particular, and if just based on this, spiritual deception.
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The marketing is horrific, the claims… idk.. .. got halfway through the “buy the dog song” and had to bail.. got kinda Too new age/creepy for me…. “people prayed for this girl for months, but she came out of coma with this music..” be CAREFUL … it sounds like youare putting yourself above God’s powers. Just be careful. May want to re-think the marketing bro….. but hey. I bought the music and it’s awesome! Not too expensive.. just like $7.50 per song. Worth it. Tired of the same ol!
Such a divisive bunch we are. I once said if you put every christian on an island so that none would ever be offended again, the peace would last about one day and someone would be offended. They would move to another island with their group living in peace for – another day until one of them got offended and move to another island with….
Ever read 1 Corinthians 8? How many of us would eat meat placed before a pagan god in a pagan temple asked to be blessed by that god? Well?
Funny thing is that was happening. And the Christians were divided and some accusing Paul of misconduct.
However the ones defending at all costs the honor of the faith, and making sure everyone knew that eating that meat was wrong, are in fact described by God as weak minded.
Shouting and attacking, having offense and having reason to discredit something does not make that person a “strong” christian, it only magnifies their weakness.
All things are ours. God created frequencies. God created all things and all things are ours, though not everything is profitable.
So is this music evil because it uses “natural” (God created) frequencies? is it the equivalent of meat offered to idols? Perhaps. But I know there is but one God and Father whom I believe is more than well able to keep me and to present me whole on that day before His throne.
Today, too many people looking at Christians know what they are against, but very few actually know what they are for. Living and loving the Lord with all our heart, mind soul and strength, and our neighbor as our selves should be our priority. Not shooting at everything we feel is not right.
What a waste to go through life attacking but not living.
Looking at the life of Christ I seldom see Him expressing offense. He is too busy forgiving adulterers whom the law would stone to death. Healing the sick. Embracing the outcast. Being patient with the weak in faith, and totally filled up with living His live in that golden rule.
For me I love music and find these tracts relaxing and chilling. Will they “heal” me or “get me possessed by evil” lol I do not know. But this I know God is not defeated in my life by a piece of music!!
Well put Mark. I think it does come down to grace for your fellow believers even when you might not agree with him or her. The bottom line is that grace flows from love.
Jesus healed through the laying of hands and casting out demons. Also he said “your faith has healed you.”Mark 5:34, Luke 17:19, Luke 8:48, Mark 10:52. Faith in Jesus
Christ and no other!\
Also in Mathew 10:1 Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.This all through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Praise be to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit!!
Many comments implied that King David (who was not King David yet–)was soothing King Saul with his harp. One comment said he was depressed. No, my friends King Saul had a demon that was coming on him, and the music that King David played chased the demon away momentarily. So, King Saul wasn’t being healed, that wicked spirit was being temporarily bound by King Davids playing. Before we can make a claim that WholeTones were given by God as a healing method that David (who was not yet King,) used with King Saul, first we have to get the story straight. King Saul wasn’t sick, he was being vexed by a demon sent by the Lord.
1Sa 16:23 And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.
In addition, playing that harp was a necessity for David (who was not King David at the time,) as King Saul’s demon was inspiring King Saul to kill David by throwing his javelin at him. 1Sa 18:10 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul’s hand.
1Sa 18:11 And Saul cast the javelin; for he said, I will smite David even to the wall with it. And David avoided out of his presence twice. And, 1Sa 19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.
1Sa 19:10 And Saul sought to smite David even to the wall with the javelin; but he slipped away out of Saul’s presence, and he smote the javelin into the wall: and David fled, and escaped that night. So, in conclusion, (Not yet )King David’s harp playing was for preservation from a demonic spirit that was seeking to murder him. Based on this story, how does it now compare to the claims of WholeTones. By His Stripes We Are Healed. Or try this one: Jas 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
I really appreciated Michael Tyrrell’s response to the group and feel saddened at the attack on his intentions. I believe his intentions are true, however……speaking for myself – I am still conflicted on whether to purchase or not. Reason 1 is that I have to pay attention to whether or not that hesitation is the Holy Spirit speaking to me and 2, I am aware that in this age of deception on steroids, we are all very cautious – rightfully so. Satan uses all the truths and goodness of Jesus Christ and his word and flips them to a dual meaning. My first thought on the playing of this music while sleeping raised a flag because I have always understood that healthy sleep involves silence. The words “opening your mind” is also concerning because Satan uses any crack in your mind as an advantage to get in and persuade. Just some thoughts…..
Linda, I appreciate your desire to listen to the Holy Spirit for guidance, very wise. In addition, God gave us a very powerful mind when used properly can also help (a lot) to get to the truth of a matter.
The truth is, even with the title of this long blog, it said this: “Pastors push musical “tones” to reach God and heal our DNA.”
First of all, I know Michael and have spent many many hours reading and watching videos that explain this well. Let me state that he is not using tones to reach God.
Yes, the highest tone does “open us up to worship” but what a surprise, music actually has the power to move us depending on what is played!
Secondly, healing DNA is a scientific fact when 528 hz is played on a petri dish with damaged DNA. It literally repairs the DNA!
This is NO reflection on you as you seem to be open to truth and wise. But I myself years ago saw something to do with “energy” and how it can help heal the body. Wow, I shut down thinking that is “new age.” Well let me tell you, the new agers NEVER invented anything but only took what God created within our bodies and used it for themselves and not for God’s glory. Once I opened myself up (carefully with the Holy Spirit’s guidence) my body went a lot further towards health. No demons involved but pure science based.
I am spirit filled and a very longtime follower of Jesus since childhood. I’m 66 now. And it has taken me many decades to separate my own biases from what may be a blessing from God towards our physical health. In Prov it says it is the glory of God to conceal a matter but the honor of kings to search it out. There are amazing healing things on this earch put here by GOD and not new agers for our benefit. But most will stay (like I used to be) in their own little box and they choose to put God in that box as well. It is their own lack of faith (not always) that limits their improvement spirit, soul and body. I have chosen to break out of my narrow minded thinking and follow the holy spirit and as a result, I’m 66 taking no drugs, rarely get sick, am healthy in spirit enjoying life and realize there is so much more for us if we will only get ourselves out of the way.
I do look for scientific proof of whether something may be grounded in science or not. But God is my highest authority. I believe some get so caught up in one thing like Wholetones not realizing they will go to the doctor, take perscription drugs, go to a chiropractor, even take natural herbs for their health not realizing that sound is VERY healing in itself if used properly. This has been known since the 1930’s where doctors would treat patience with sound and visual corresponding colors. I choose to age not getting sick in spirit, soul or body, that is my choice and I know this declaration is a part of my great health. The mind and body are not just connected but they are ONE.
So if a Christian looks at something like this wanting the Holy Spirit to guide them they are on the right track. Just like eating meat offered to idols, some early Christians conscience offended them and they could not partake in faith causing it to be sin for them. If this is the case, then just move along. But at the same time we ALL need to reject this in a spirit of grace for those who feel complete freedom to take advantage of healing frequencies. We are the body of Christ and this issue should never divide. If Michael and even myself are off track, let the Holy Spirit correct us. Michael is a spirit filled pastor. God bless!
Very wise words I believe, and well presented.
I agree that there is a l8t of knowledge amongst the new agers, other cultures, and even belief systems. Satan also have a lot of knowledge, but no one superseed God. And like you say, most of them don’t seek Him, give Him the credit or abide in Him. They don’t do His will, or keep His commandments neither. Many of them don’t even try. They aggrandesize themselves and seek their own pleasure, and the Bible wisely explains the reward thereof. The vase discussed here, I don’t know to well, but I would like to chime in a few thoughts that I got. I believe the knowledge being talked about, should not be secluded, misused or sold as a miracle system, developed by one single man, and used for profit, or personal gain. It should be shared openly and lovingly.
One may of course make any product from the knowledge and sell it, as any labourer, but not hide the knowledge from ones brothers and sisters. Hidden knowledge and secrecy is the way og satan, and we know it. Love of money is the root of all evil, this we also know well. All honour and praise should be given to The Father and The Son. We should live in gratefullness and love for Him, and others as ourselves. This is the golden guideline given by our Master. I am deeply convinced that the work of a pastor preferably should have a clearly defined border between ministry and business.
As I said. I don’t know what is the case here. So this is only my two cents, on some general perspectives that I believe in.
I appreciate your thoughts here Kay. Could I offer a few observations about Michael Terrell as I have come to know him at least somewhat and do know a few things others might not.
Concerning your comment about not keeping knowledge hidden but to share. Wholetones is a culmination of 18 years of work and research. But in addition, one man from Israel was told by the Holy Spirit to hand Michael his life’s work on frequencies. Also others in Israel Michael met with who had studied these frequencies, so there is far more than one man involved.
There is a lot of funds needed to travel, learn from others, do your own research (18 years), record in a studio with other musicians plus all the material costs. This isn’t free.
Concerning just handing it out to share with others, I saw in a video that Michael told the audience to feel free to make copies as he wanted the world to benefit from this. I actually got to know him by messaging him to make sure that it was OK. He was emphatic saying this is what it is for. So I made a number of copies and handed them out to only those I felt the Holy Spirit was prompting me to hand out to.
I agree on a number of points you made including the love of money. But knowing Michael, I don’t see this being his driving goal. In fact scripture also says a workman is worthy of his hire and MIchael has worked extremely hard to benefit mankind.
Finally, yes, also agreed that many will use God’s unique creations in a way that doesn’t glorify God. But would it be throwing out the baby with the bathwater to out of hand reject somethning on that basis?
Personally I have seen good fruit come from Wholetones in my life. I appreciate your sharing your thoughts and this comment is not about you Kay. But I believe it might be incumbant upon us all to examine ourselves with this thought regarding Wholetones or anything else. The thought is this:
If we feel our conscience would not allow us to use something that might benefit us, are we sure it is our conscience or is it possible that our narrow minded thinking has shut us down from something that was meant to bless us? God created these frequencies along with the herbs of the field, the knowledge to formulate good vitamins/nutrients, the knowledge of doctors, chiropractors, naturepaths and much more that I won’t list here for OUR good.
Years ago, I used to be pretty narrow minded as I stated above. But when combined the leading of the Holy Spirit with an open mind, my health skyrocketed. OK, just my thoughts here, but hope they may be constructive. God bless.
Oops, I wrote Holy twice! 🙂