Leaving the NAR Church: Phil’s story

Something supernatural is going on in the NAR movement. I once thought this to be the Holy Spirit. I now believe it to be demonic, Satan disguising himself as an angel of light.

Phil’s hunger for God was idolatry. He was focused on wanting more and more experiences of God’s “presence,” but instead received the Spirit of the Age. That’s because the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), is a counterfeit. It’s not biblical Christianity at all.

Millions around the world are being deceived, like Phil was. In this series, I want to take readers beyond the textbook What is the New Apostolic Reformation Movement explanation, into the personal experiences from those who have been there, and what happened when God opened their eyes to the truth.

Here is Phil’s story in his own words:

I was reared in and out of charismatic churches, but attended a strict Baptist school.

Sometime in high school I got tired of what I perceived as a “legalistic” version of Christianity in my school, and began to seek something else.

At the time, my family was not attending any type of church, so I began attending a really popular NAR/Charismatic church in Nashville, TN. This was in the mid 90’s at the zenith of when Christian contemporary music was just starting to gain acceptance in mainline denominations.  The music is what drew me in!

I’m not even sure if New Apostolic Reformation was even a term back then. They called themselves non-denominational, charismatic. But make no mistake, the practices were much like the modern NAR. In fact, we were regularly involved with International House of Prayer (IHOP). Many NAR guest speakers would come in. I remember even Bill Johnson coming several times.

When the special guest would come, that’s when the bizarre things started to happen. People were “slain in the spirit,” etc. I wanted to experience it all.

I know many articles and videos have been shown and written highlighting these bizarre “manifestations,” so I won’t go in to them. However, I will say this: so much emotional manipulation went on. We would sing well over an hour, just to whip ourselves up into a frenzy. I don’t know if it was emotional manipulation or something supernatural, but there is something very real in these services. In fact, you will hear them over and over talk about the “tangible presence of God.”  I can tell you from experience, you come to believe something really has happened in these services.

When I married a good Baptist girl, and she would have nothing to do with all this nonsense. But I kept up with it. Went to see Benny Hinn. I read NAR books and watched TBN.

I watched the Lakeland Revival on God TV. For practical purposes I had to be a closet NAR guy while attending a Baptist church.  When I started to watch Todd Bentley, I began to think something might a little off about this guy, and started to really do my homework on this movement.

We found a Baptist church on the threshold of crossing over. Before becoming involved, I had to be sure. I had to know before leading my family into this stuff, so I begged God in prayer for the truth!

I had always been fascinated with Bible prophecy, and since the church we attended barely mentioned prophecy, I began study a prophecy teacher by the name of Jimmy DeYoung, I learned more than prophecy. I learned a word called exegete. I learned to dig into the Word, for truth. This also led me to other teachers such as John Macarthur, and introduced me to a term call expository preaching.  My Baptist preacher had been faithfully doing this for years, but never used the term.

I begged God for the truth, and through true Bible study I came to the truth! Also, the scriptures I had to learn in school came flooding back to me, verses like:

“Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.”  Matthew 24:35

I finally began to understand that only through God’s Word could you truly find truth. I had to repent of my sins. Yes, I believe I had committed spiritual adultery and idolatry. I had fashioned a god and made him look like I wanted him to look, and I went after that god I made in my own image. We had been constantly seeking a presence, and I learned that I had been worshiping an experience, not the God of the Bible.

Yeah, we’d used “biblical” language; in fact we used the name of Jesus on a consistent basis.

However, really studying Matthew 7 it hit me like a ton of bricks. It says “in your name”, “in your name”, “in your name” three times! Many scholars have rightly pointed out these people were trusting in their works. YES, this is true! But, upon closer inspection they were miraculous works done in the name of Jesus. We must see the parallel to today’s movement.

“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12

We must also open our eyes that deception can come in our Lord’s name.

Something supernatural is going on in the NAR movement. It just isn’t emotional hype, although I believe heightened emotions are the gateway. I once thought this to be the Holy Spirit. I now believe it to be demonic, Satan disguising himself as an angel of light.  I believe this to be none other than what the Bible calls the Spirit of the Antichrist. Whatever, you want to call it, its mission is to destroy the church from within, using a counterfeit light to accomplish it’s purpose.

It hates truth; it brings God’s people away from scripture to more emotional things.

Many churches today have abandoned Bible study for other books. While some are good, they aren’t the Bible. The antichrist spirit is very subtle. We’ve abandoned the Gospel for “good” social programs, and while they have their place, nothing should take the place of the true mission of the church.

What is disheartening is that this seems to be creeping into the mainline churches. It is coming in thorough the music. My NAR pastor used to pray “the “Holy Spirit” (what I now believe to be spirit of antichrist) would get into the mainline churches through music. Nashville has been spreading this stuff ever since.

Ever notice how much the music today focuses on the “presence of God” and the name of Jesus? My fear is many of these new “worship” songs have been inspired by the antichrist spirit. Even theologically sound churches I’ve attended sang lyrics like “when you speak when you move, when you come into the room.” The Holy Spirit came into the room when truly born again believers walked into it. God’s spirit works through his Word. Salvation truly is a supernatural act whereas the Holy Spirit re-creates a person. There is a formula for this in scripture, “Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” Romans 10:17

We don’t need to frenzy ourselves up with singing and have some mystical experience and conjure up the “Holy Spirit.” I fear some of these songs such as the song made popular by Francesca Battistelli called Holy Spirit is merely a incantation to the antichrist spirit. Now, it’s not that I think these conservative churches are going to have fire tunnels next week, but they are giving validation to Bethel Music, Jesus Culture, and more. They are letting words inspired by the antichrist to infiltrate their flock. They are exposing their young people to this, so that when they go to a conference or an event where the experiences are happening, they will accept it! They may reason, “after all, this is the same music at my church, so these people can’t be all that bad.”

Of course, speaking out on this, you are labeled a Pharisee. You are accused of wanting to turn back the clock, dust of the hymn books again, and go back to the old ways.

I say, nothing wrong with worshiping God robustly with emotion, if need be. David did!

However, we are told to worship in spirit and truth!

I once used that verse to justify worshipping God in the antichrist spirit, but the true Holy Spirit can never be separated from the truth of Scripture.

My prayer is God will raise up those that love people enough to give them the truth!

Author’s Note:  You can read the entire series of NAR testimonies here.  If you would like to send me your story about your NAR church experience and what happened when your eyes were opened, you can email me here. I will be changing your first name to keep you anonymous.


13 Responses to Leaving the NAR Church: Phil’s story

  1. Gina March 10, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

    Thank you for sharing all of these testimonies! They are so encouraging, to see how God is faithful to save out of this false system and using these people to spread the Truth. NAR/charismatic chaos is creeping ever so persistently into all churches.

  2. Maggie March 10, 2017 at 4:53 pm #

    As Gina said, “NAR/charismatic chaos is creeping ever so persistently into all churches.” I found mystical teachings (contemplative spirituality) coming into my former conservative church. When I questioned these teachings, I was accused of being “legalistic.” That made no sense to me; I was calling for discernment. When rock-star Christians like Beth Moore and Max Lucado are promoting “the silence” and “listening for God’s voice,” how can it be wrong?

    I think individuals at that church were particularly primed to accept the feel-good (seductive) practices of “experiencing God’s Presence” because a heavy dose of Law was being preached to the congregation. It came in the form of teachings about obedience to God and finding applications to one’s own life from Scripture. Without the balance of hearing the gospel message preached from the pulpit (um, stage), this is a heavy burden for any Christian to carry. Many people in this church had been raised in those teachings. With that background, I can understand someone being drawn to experiencing the false good feelings of God’s acceptance and love through mystical practices. How do you tell a person they may be in deception and contacting the demonic realm instead? When I dared to warn, the response was anger.

    I am also grateful to hear stories like Phil’s.

    • Maggie March 11, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

      The gateway drug into the NAR may be contemplative prayer (aka soaking, experiencing God’s Presence, etc.), which produces a passive trance-like state that suspends critical thinking and makes one susceptible to accepting false teaching.

    • Gina March 11, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

      I agree with you Maggie and I too got many angry responses when calling out false doctrine, especially the charismatic kind. “Discernment” and “doctrine” are naughty words anymore. People are seeking a personal revelation and experience for many reasons. I was there too, only because every single Christian I knew was telling me, ‘oh that dream you had, that is from God and He is probably saying this and that” or “when you feel this and that, you know it’s God talking to you.” It was relentless and confusing. Thankfully God opened my eyes after I started searching the Scriptures to back up all this personal revelation stuff and reading Gary Gilley’s book “Is that You Lord.” It’s amazing what a few years and one or two false teachers will do to what used to be a sound church. Its the leaven that leavens the whole lump. We must keep warning, studying the Word and praying. 🙂

  3. Manny1962 March 10, 2017 at 5:18 pm #

    This is happening because people have exchanged the truth (scripture) for a lie (demonic based religion.) This always comes to mind, in the latter days men will heap teachers around them that say what their itching ears want to hear! A sign of the times, one of the key components of the NAR is ecumenism, they also deny and allegorize Revelation, as they see themselves ushering in the kingdom of God, same thing the RCC says. All roads lead to Rome.

  4. Dee March 10, 2017 at 7:53 pm #

    They are definitely playing on the youth.
    So churches use Bethel music etc to make it more appealing for youth and they won’t leave.
    It’s frightening to see how much infiltration is going on and most people are really not aware, they just mean well…

  5. Sheila Beers March 11, 2017 at 11:51 pm #

    I have enjoyed reading the testimonies of various people who have left the NAR. Phil mentioned the music, and his statement reminded me that so much contemporary “gospel” music focuses on some sort of self-fulfillment or having personal needs met by the Lord. There are very few songs, if any, about any concern for others, helping other people, or witnessing to the lost. It is all “me, me, me” and “my relationship” with God or a perceived “closeness” to God. So many vintage hymns are a paraphrase of scripture, and the words have so much more depth than most of the contemporary gospel music of today.

    • Gina March 16, 2017 at 8:21 pm #

      Sheila, right on. Another thing I notice is how many songs sing in first person for God, speaking words and phrases on His behalf supposedly, (most aren’t from Scripture) and its never a message on anything but love and acceptance for everyone and they’re man focused messages.

    • Manny1962 March 16, 2017 at 8:42 pm #

      Hi Sheila,

      You’re correct! “Contemporary Christian music” is nothing more than a business, many looking for market share (money) get into it, without being Christians!! There’s nothing that honors God in most of the songs, sometimes it’s hard to differentiate between secular and “Christian” concerts……… It’s all about the emotions, the experiences, the adulation, not the Gospels!

  6. Robert Gareau March 16, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

    is hillsong church in australia and hillsong worship music involeved in the NAR?

    • Manny1962 March 16, 2017 at 7:54 pm #

      They’re into everything. And the short answer, yes.

  7. Tony April 10, 2017 at 10:44 am #

    I was in the charismatic, Jesus People movement a long, long time. I have tempered my earlier views and no longer believe in tongues, and don’t like hearing someone say, “Somebody here has joint pain”, etc. At the same time, we were genuinely saved, genuinely on fire for Jesus Christ, and lives were changed. Yes, I’ve had a rare few experiential things happen to me, and they are in line with the unchangeable Bible. If they were not, I’d reject them. So there’s a balancing point here- charismatics are Christians, put Jesus first, and hold to orthodoxy. They see some non-essentials differently. Just don’t write them off for the sake of the wacky ones!

    • Gina April 10, 2017 at 11:00 am #

      Tony, glad to hear you have left this false teaching. Yeah there are Christians in the movement, despite the fact that the movement/doctrine is false and demonic. It’s dangerous for them to be there so we must warn them and encourage them to leave. I believe they will not stay long if they truly have Christ and love His Word.

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