Crisis at Andy Stanley’s North Point Church

In his piece “Crisis at North Point,” Todd Pruitt, one of the co-hosts of Mortification of Spin, denounces the raunchy stage act that was performed at Andy Stanley’s church during a Sunday morning worship service.  To enlighten his readers, Pruitt included a video of the all boy band’s performance.  However, the video is no longer available for viewing.  According to Steven Kozar who posted the video on Museum of Idolatry on July 25th:  “North Point Church is making it more difficult to view their “boy band” video (since we published this a few days ago), so we’ve made this video to remind everyone of it’s questionable and foolish content.”  Following is a much shorter version of the performance:

Click here and scroll down to see more of the boys in action.

We urge you to read Todd’s Pruitt’s blog post below which has been posted in its entirety:

Andy Stanley

There is a crisis at North Point Community Church. North Point is the super duper mega church in Atlanta founded and led by Andy Stanley. Stanley has enormous influence through North Point, his books, and conferences. For many, Andy is the go-to guy when it comes to effective communication and leadership. But there is a crisis at North Point. This crisis is dishonoring to God, destructive to God’s people, and threatens the churches influenced by the Atlanta mega church.

If you were expecting some salacious detail or breaking news then this will be rather disappointing to you. The evidence is readily available. Indeed it is supplied rather proudly by North Point. The sickness at the heart of North Point is on full display in the following video which captures the goings on at a recent worship service.

Video removed

Perhaps I’m naive but “Love The Way You Turn Me On” should have been a tip off to those in leadership at North Point that something was not right (at this point I don’t expect those who continue to attend to have sufficient discernment to recognize what is wrong).

Honestly, I am tired of hearing about good intentions and great results when it comes to garbage like this. This stuff does nothing, absolutely nothing to “reach” anyone. It only confuses. I would not care so much except for the fact that I once served as pastor of a church in Philadelphia where Andy Stanley had influence among some of the top leaders. And there are many other churches whose pastors, youth ministers, and children’s directors are influenced by Andy Stanley and North Point. I don’t know who has influence in Andy Stanley’s life but I hope that among those who do, someone will have the courage to call him to repent of such foolishness. This sort of thing is destructive to the people of God. When imitation of the world is allowed to flourish in a church it is clear that the shepherds have become predators.

As a side note, you may remember Andy Stanley famously saying in a sermon earlier in the year that people who go to smaller churches are “lazy” and don’t care about their children because those churches cannot provide the same sorts of experiences as do big churches like North Point. When I watched this video one of my first thoughts was, “How lazy it is to go to a church like this.”

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29 Responses to Crisis at Andy Stanley’s North Point Church

  1. J.C. Rawlins August 2, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

    A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats.
    – C.H. Spurgeon

    • Cristian October 2, 2016 at 9:32 am #

      We went to NorthPoint Church years ago with my family, once.
      I recall this (self-proclaimed) pastor praising a woman in the audience who had cancer. I remember thinking that there was no power for this woman to believe for any kind of healing. It made me sad. Mainstream churches like North Point are a part of the harlot church talked about in the bible. A harlot begs for money and has sex with more than one partner FOR MONEY. The harlot church begs for money and has adultery with the world and it’s influence so that she can keep making money. She is not one with her Lord, intimate, nor does she hear His voice.
      Proverbs 7: 24 Now, then, listen to me, O sons, and attend to the words of my mouth:
      25 Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways; do not go astray in her paths.
      26 For many are the wounded she has caused to fall

    • Michael March 26, 2017 at 8:59 pm #

      I don’t think I have ever witnessed such criticism on a fellow Christian as on this website. What a joke.

  2. Linda Robey August 2, 2016 at 3:06 pm #

    2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
    2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

  3. John August 2, 2016 at 5:42 pm #

    Whenever wolves like this come forward do any Christian send correspondence to them to call them to repent? Or do anything to call the congregation to come out of the church? Just curious

    • Sola Scriptura August 3, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

      I did send Pastor David Uth, at FBC Orlando, and email pointing out the fact that he was hiding he gospel from the LBGTQ community by not lovingly calling them to repentance during the prayer service for them following the shooting. I encouraged him to be willing to give up everything, including his job, in order to honor the simple truth of the gospel…Jesus Christ paid for our sins on a hard wooden cross, naked, humiliated and in agonizing pain…for our sins. If you aren’t preaching that to those living in unrepentant sin, then you aren’t preaching the one and only gospel, and you aren’t loving them. I did not receive a response. We have emailed in the past.
      Since this is anonymous I am not bragging and thus, don’t mind sharing my email to him.

  4. Sheila Beers August 2, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

    It is obvious that Pastor Stanley is trusting in numbers and humanistic ideas and NOT on the Lord as he SHOULD. Shame on Pastor Stanley because he should know better!!!

  5. Thad Boyd August 3, 2016 at 5:48 am #

    How could anybody be a serious student of Scripture [ which a pastor is required to be ] and think that these tactics are acceptable in church ministry? It is disturbing to see so many flock to ‘churches’ where such things are used to ‘worship God’ or to ‘win souls’. False methodology is the result of false theology. Andy ought to shut down the big circus act and study the Bible and then preach it thoroughly. That was the pattern of Paul and Timothy and is to be the pattern of all Pastors/Elders. 1st & 2nd Timothy, Titus. How can a Christian minister fail to understand this? Could this be a case of the blind leading the blind? The test of ministry is not being big, it is being Biblical. If people want amusement let them go to Six Flags!

    • Maggie August 3, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

      I believe this is just another result of the purposely designed direction of the emergent church away from sound biblical doctrine, in favor of a “faith” that is experiential. If not grounded in the truth of the Bible, what are the limits these leaders will go to? I use the word “leaders” and not “pastors” because they are not doing their job as biblically defined. Andy Stanley’s model is of a leader/CEO and not a pastor/shepherd.

  6. Denise August 3, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

    I feel so because Dr. Charles Stanley must be hurting over all of this.

    • Denise August 3, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

      Sorry, for leaving off a word. I feel so bad because Dr. Charles Stanley must be hurting over all of this.

    • Fran April 3, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

      Amen. I pray his dad is bringing counsel. But I wonder if he will submit?

  7. David August 3, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

    I know that what I am about to say is not going to be well received. Is Dr. Charles Stanley separating himself from Andy Stanley? Is he calling his son out for false teaching? If not, why not? They are both very influential pastors who should be held to a high level of accountability.

    2 Cor. 6:14-15, “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?”

    If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t there a photo showing Charles sitting next to Andy during the service at Andy’s church? If so, this is showing support for Andy’s teaching. I don’t care if it is one’s son, there is guilt by association. Again, what communion hath light with darkness?

  8. Manny1962 August 3, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

    You are correct David, false teaching is false teaching, Charles Stanley cannot be part of that church unless he himself has become compromised. This is part and parcel of the great apostasy unfolding before our eyes, I’d say more than 90% of so called Christendom is compromised. The day grows closer.

  9. Maggie August 3, 2016 at 11:32 pm #

    Lighthouse Trails did an article in July 2013 that Charles Stanley’s In Touch magazine was continuing to promote contemplative/emergent names and that Charles also supported the “Be Still” DVD which promotes contemplative prayer.
    See: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=12341

    Lighthouse Trails considers Andy Stanley, being part of the emerging church, to be a bridger between the emerging church and evangelical Christianity.

    Kinda sounds like both father and son may be bridgers.

  10. Todd Carter August 4, 2016 at 7:31 pm #

    I really that the worst of the Jimmy Swaggart 1990s preaching of hell fire and brimstone were over and that we had all learned that the bible was to be used against satan and his kingdom. Apparently I’m finding some bitter Christians who would rather attack a brother over the smallest of things rather than the true enemy of the church. While you’re busy sniffing through the entire catalog of “fill in mega church” of church sermons, bulletins, magazine, mission statements, christian get togethers, etc. just looking for something to condemn, Satan’s kingdom has marched right into your church and divorced half of the congregation, got your son’s addicted to pornography, got your daughters to put their self worth on their outward appearance and got the rest of you on a life long crusade to be, as lighthouse trails puts it “Gospel protectors”. First of all, God can protect his gospel just fine. Second, do you really think that there’s a special reward in heaven for those who pointed out all the inconsistencies of every christian who lived? 3). Your apostate church is the part of your church that fails to live up to the impossible standards you put on everyone in it. So before you bash every christian over the head with a bible who doesn’t follow every single requirement you have for a perfect christian and a perfect church, please look inside and ask yourself why you have the need to do that.

    • Sola Scriptura August 4, 2016 at 10:14 pm #

      If one preaches Jesus Christ crucified for sin, repentance and separation from the wicked culture we live in, then they are good. If they don’t, and gladly lead the masses down the broad road to hell with silly, humanistic sermons that are geared toward building the business of church and their own personal brand, then they are bad and must be called out – and publicly. See Galatians 2, where Paul calls out Peter publicly.
      All that matters is that people are called to repent and believe so that they don’t burn in hell forever. Few preachers care anymore because it won’t get them but speaking engagements, book and DVD deals, and it sure as heck won’t bring rich yuppies into their pews.

      • Todd Carter August 5, 2016 at 9:09 am #

        Ok. A couple of things. I think the sticking point with the churches who get targeted would be questioned on “separation from wicked culture”. I don’t think Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, and a few other notable mega church pastors never “gladly lead the masses down the broad road of hell”. Everyone has to take accountability for their beliefs. Every christian has full access not only to the bible but a mass amount of christian doctrine but hundreds of ministers. There is no excuse for any christian to be lead astray these days. If you haven’t bothered to form your own opinions about your faith and can be misdirected to a false relationship with Christ, I don’t think there’s any finger pointing that can go on. As many Protestant believers that believe some Catholics are saved in with believing in the Virgin Mary and other Catholic doctrines, how can we point to a Christian church who profess 90 percent or more of what you believe as say that the church is fully leading people astray? I’m not talking about the emergent church who reject the fundamental aspects of christian faith. I’m talking about the Joel Osteens, the Andy Stanleys, and other big name ministers who are preaching salvation. If you’re not edified by their message, you can move on. But some people are edified and not every christian of faith is going to have hundreds and hundreds of faith doctrines worked out in their lives. Some of them are busy working and raising families and doing God’s work.

        I don’t know what you’re pointing to in Galatians 2, Paul never calls out Peter, only alludes to the similar ministry that they have. The whole dialogue servers my point actually.

        You mentioned that people don’t “burn in hell forever”. You mean the Lake of Fire right? Because death and hell are thrown into the Lake of Fire at the end of Revelation. I really reject the notion of “few preachers care anymore”. From where I stand I think the majority of fundamental churches preach the same gospel. But if you’re going to split hairs about church music, the presentation of all aspects of church doctrine and other variations and say that salvation depends on those things, well then I think we need to read the bible together and talk about what’s necessary for salvation.

  11. Manny1962 August 4, 2016 at 10:29 pm #

    Sometimes you find the true enemy of the church being preached from a pulpit, under the guise of unity, entertainment and tolerance. Beware of those that espouse it doesn’t matter what the bible says of these wolves, after all we are all brothers and sisters, right? And calling out obvious error and apostasy is tantamount to being divisive, unloving, and unkind……….well this is why Churchianity grows by the day, and the Great Apostasy is being fulfilled as much of the church has lost discernment and the ability to judge wisely. Jesus said broad is the way……few find it, it’s getting harder to follow Christ with each passing day, if not for His protection we would all be carried away in the great deception. We have been warned, in the last days men will gather teachers that will say what their itching ears want to hear. Many within the ranks will turn on the faithful. So here we are.

  12. David August 5, 2016 at 8:01 am #

    Political Correctness (PC) has entered the church. Those who preach truth and warn the brethren of false teaching and deception will be vilified by many who profess Christ. The slogan in today’s church is “love and unity.” Unfortunately, truth has been REDEFINED. In fact, that is what we are seeing in the world today…the redefining of words. What’s up is now down, what’s right is now wrong, what’s good is now bad, what’s white is now black. Those who do not embrace this lie, this deception, are now the problem within and outside the church. When it’s all said and done, it’s about the compromise of truth. Many do not want truth today because it causes discomfort and perhaps fear, so they settle for the lie because it is comfortable and non-threatening to their way of life. And this is the falling away – the apostasy that we are seeing via the emergent church, dominionism, social justice, mysticism, etc. May we be found faithful and obedient at our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ’s SOON coming.

  13. Manny1962 August 5, 2016 at 12:21 pm #

    FALSE TEACHERS: (there are more)

    2 Timothy 4:3-4 – For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    1 John 4:1 – Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    1 Timothy 6:3-5 – If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, [even] the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

    Jude 1:4 – For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    2 Peter 2:1 – But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    Deuteronomy 13:1-3 – If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

    2 Corinthians 11:13-15 – For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    2 Timothy 3:5 – Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    Ephesians 5:11 – And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

    1 John 4:1-6 – Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    1 John 2:26-27 – These [things] have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

  14. Manny1962 August 5, 2016 at 12:40 pm #

    Joel Osteen does NOT preach salvation, he preaches a false doctrine of demons:

    http://beginningandend.com/apostasy-alert-joel-osteen-and-oprah-preach-new-age-magic/

    That’s just one tiny example.

    Any “Protestant” that believes anyone is saved by trusting in The Vatican, The Virgin Mary or the Pope is deluded, just ask Rick Warren. According to the fools that believe this we all worship the same god, including the Islamic demon, all roads to lead to Rome all worship the same god.

    The apostasy being unfolded in Christendom does not agree with the sentiment that churches are preaching the basic tenets of the bible, much less the more intricate passages. What we have in general today is Aposasy, error and lack of discernment to see the lies.

  15. Manny1962 August 8, 2016 at 4:04 pm #

    Also, being edified does not men saved. The common thread in all these false ministries is the “feel-good” false gospel, it doesn’t save, there’s enough leaven mixed with truth to make it sound “right” to the undiscerning, non-bible reading proselyte. 90% of something is not 100% it is incomplete, Colossians 2 deals with such a heresy, Paul clearly says “see that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.” Worldly practices and philosophy is what the mega-church apostates use to make their “church” grow, not the word of God. Stanley, Osteen, Hybels, Warren and their ilk will have a greater condemnation as they trample the word of God underfoot for their gain.

  16. Manny1962 August 8, 2016 at 4:10 pm #

    The word of God is 100% complete, if they can’t teach it, they have no business handling it. It seems like too many are willing to take that 90% as long as they are entertained, feel good and their life stays the same, how many will come to this realization when they face Jesus for the first time? What are they going to say……..I’m a good person, I went to church, pastor so and so said his is the way to salvation? I wouldn’t want to be in the shoes of any of the above named false teachers.

    • Dave October 1, 2016 at 3:41 pm #

      Anyone not preaching islam is okay by me.
      I believe that is most important today.
      Focus on the true subversion.
      Submission can not be an option.

  17. Jeff miller August 31, 2016 at 10:46 pm #

    Man, Andy Stanley is so brilliant. As a life long atheist I never would have found Jesus without him. I hated Jesus, I hated God and I hated Christians. Now I am transformed thanks to this man. God has given him a real gift and has given me a real gift in letting me find him. Sometimes I feel like he is one of the only people who truly understands the bible as it was intended. I feel Lille 99 percent of Christians have been misled or are just fake. The only true Christians I have ever met go to Northpoint. You guys should really open your heats and minds to what the Holy Spirit is doing here.

  18. Chris Watson September 2, 2016 at 8:38 pm #

    As soon as I read ‘I was a pastor…’ this lost all credibility.

  19. Shep October 4, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

    I disagree with all the criticism. It’s not Andy Stanley’s church, and God is using NorthPoint’s efforts to accomplish His purposes!

    Years ago while attending a church leadership conference at a NorthPoint, I recall hearing Prince’s “Little Red Corvette” playing over the sound system during a break. At first I thought the sound guy was playing the wrong playlist. Then I realized what was going on… NorthPoint Church was modeling a welcoming environment for us. That song is familiar to a lot of people inside and outside church culture, and hearing a familiar song helps people feel welcome, accepted, and comfortable.

    Does every church have to play ‘Little Red Corvette’ before or after services? Of course not. But if every church was as intentional about reaching the lost and real heart change, rather than looking perfect and judging others who aren’t, Christ’s purpose would be accomplished in His church.

  20. Lisa C October 13, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

    Do any of you know Andy Stanley? Bless him, Father, for trying to reach people and reconcile them to You.

    All the critics above are the main reason most people in the US don’t go to church. Many people say they believe in Jesus, but His so-called “followers” aren’t anything like Him. I agree. Traditional church is failing. Call it what it is. And most critics don’t have a heart that cares enough to even try to do anything about it. Sad.

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